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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump's indictments shouldn't matter...
...in reaching a decision about supporting him.
Settling a claim in civil court for creating a fraudulent college and bilking people out of their hard earned money. That settlement was for $25 million.
Being caught on tape saying he grabs women by the p***y and then being found guilty of sexual assault in civil court in a unanimous jury verdict and paying $5 million.
His CEO of a family-owned business he controlled all of his adult life, pleads guilty to fraud and tax evasion.
Numerous bankruptcies and cheating contractors.
Bone spurs, disparaging McCain's heroism, racist attacks, misogynist attacks and bigotry.
His 1972 settlement with the Nixon Administration Justice Department for discrimination in renting apartments. His labor department fines for hiring undocumented workers and paying them sub-standard wages.
3 marriages in which he cheated on each of his wives, once with a porn star while his 3rd wife was home nursing his son.
These are all incidents and actions Trump committed before he was President (even though the day of reckoning in some cases were after his inauguration).
I never needed these recent 4 indictments and 91 counts to figure out that Donald Trump is a no-good fucking asshole.
I knew it all along.
malaise
(296,131 posts)Rec
I'm always pleased to get a rec from a long-standing DU member, being a newbie.
malaise
(296,131 posts)😀😀😀
gab13by13
(32,345 posts)our problem would not go away. Millions of Americans condone what Trump has done and the new Magat political party is in lock step with him. 2 Congressional Republicans criticized Trump for being an evil person and were banished from the new Magat party.
The new Magat party is a minority party, it already controls the Supreme Court, and the only way for a minority party to control our government is to destroy our democracy and become a country like Russia where people who criticize Dear leader fall from tall buildings or whose airplane is shot out of the sky.
If Trump were elected in 2024 I expect a Pinocet-style reign, Trump will live in the White House until he dies.
colorado_ufo
(6,252 posts)Probatim
(3,286 posts)I think we would become more like Iraq/Saudi Arabia - where the hardline, religious minority ruled the country at the expense of everyone else.
It feels like we're already heading down that path.
Pacifist Patriot
(25,212 posts)Yes, yes, I know all the "reasons." I just can't grasp living in a country with so many hateful idiots. I hope I never reconcile myself to that.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,959 posts)progressoid
(53,182 posts)So one night I asked a simple question on a post she shared about how great Trump is. I asked her what qualities he had that most closely reflect her faith.
Crickets.
Next day, I checked in to see if she had responded. Nope. I was unfriended.
Oh well. No big loss to me.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,959 posts)ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Their demigod thinks violence is the answer to non-violent "offenses," as does TFG...and those who follow both.
Their demigod thinks foreigners are dogs--and even called them that to their faces, as does TFG...and those who follow both.
Their demigod is all for promoting divisiveness, even amongst families, as does TFG...and those who follow both.
Their demigod wants to torment and torture anyone who disagrees with him, forever, as does TFG...and those who follow both.
So it's really not all that difficult to square her religious choice with supporting TFG. They're all but made for each other.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)They are christians. The implications with those stupid bunny ear quotes are that they're faking it because christians are all good people, and anyone who is bad has to be not-christian.
That is BS. Bad people are christians, too, so stop trying to pawn off thosee bad actors on people who had bloody bugger all to do with creating them. They are not one of us, no matter how many lies--implied or not--all of you vomit up to paint them that way.
We non-christians are tired of being blamed for things that aren't in the least related to us. Your dirty laundry, not ours. YOU clean it up, rather than tossing it in our backyard.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,959 posts)Putting in quotations emphasizes that they are ANYTHING BUT.
If you interpret it differently, so be it.
DemUnleashed
(633 posts)Add walking into teen dressing rooms and wanting to date your daughter to the list! And what about his full-page ad for the Central Park 5!
niyad
(132,456 posts)tiny pause, was a substitute for the word he really meant. We have all seen those creepy pictures, and that disgusting scene at the rnc, when he felt her up.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Hell, they ARE just like him. Degenerate.
Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)Who has 4500+ lawsuits?
HINT: A GUILTY AF A++HOLE!
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)But evidently this level of stupidity isnt enough for his cult members who have elevated him to a deity.
Shanti Shanti Shanti
(12,047 posts)The Golden Idol
Prairie_Seagull
(4,692 posts)How long will it be before the magats are chased back into the shadows. A year, a decade, a generation? Many are looking at this problem like it's the beginning of the end, I believe it's just the end of the beginning. I believe we make a grave error in this exponentially changing world to think the cancer will be gone just because one tumor is removed.
A short respite may very well be in the books (if some remain) but the war will continue and we owe it to our kids, grandkids, great-grandkids...... to keep fighting.
I know I will celebrate and have been whenever tfg looses, but I treat it like a long needed break from the madness, not an end unto itself. Realizing I have become more cynical than I have ever been. Is my cynicism unrealistic? Or preparatory for what's coming? In my life, I have done well being prepared for whats ahead. A hard learned trait no doubt but one I now rely on.
IMO
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)And they'll be here long after him. We'll probably never wipe it out, because this nonsense has been festering since the Civil War.
Good grief, the good people in Germany have spent over 75 years trying to atone for the Nazi years, they've banned the party and cracked down on Nazi speech...and even that hasn't killed off the Nazi sympathizers there. Makes it harder to be a Nazi, yes...but doesn't eradicate it.
We haven't made nearly that kind of effort to prevent another murderous right wing takeover of the government, so what do you think our chances are if Germany can't control it, entirely?
TeamProg
(6,630 posts)guts to prosecute him.
That reminds me of a joke somewhere:
A rapist, a con man and a tax cheat walk into a bar. The bartender says "Hi Donald".
Badaboom
Justice matters.
(9,790 posts)FREE advertizing starting at his fake show down the escalator (extras were paid $50 to attend).
TeamProg
(6,630 posts)sarchasm
(1,310 posts)Not to mention the embarrassing and disgraceful episode at Aisne-Marne where he wouldn't go because it was raining, and then referred to soldiers buried there as "suckers" and "losers."
...and he cheats at golf fercrissake!
Duncan Grant
(8,920 posts)I have never understood how he got a pass for the disrespectful suckers and losers insult.
Also, his argumentative defensiveness regarding the death of Sgt. La David Johnson in Niger (He knew what he signed up for
).
And - every twisted betrayal involving Syria. F*ck.
And the Taliban.
I mention all of this as a critic of militarism. Cheetolini and his followers are monstrous and thats putting it nicely.
republianmushroom
(22,327 posts)wiggs
(8,812 posts)WarGamer
(18,613 posts)NO ONE considering voting for Trump cares about those things.
It's simply Team Red vs Team Blue
It's tribalism.
Just an aside... I don't care what the polls say. Do you HONESTLY believe there is ONE single US citizen that wakes up on Election Day and says "I'm heading to go vote and I'm conflicted... on one hand I love 1967 Corvettes and on the other hand I like Border walls... I love how Biden is addressing Climate Change but I also love how Trump treats women..."
In reality... the population is 40% Red, 40% Blue and 20% indifferent who MAY decide to vote this year depending on motivation.
But a voter who isn't quite sure who's a better choice? Nah.
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