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babylonsister

(172,528 posts)
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:39 AM Sep 2025

The World No Longer Takes Trump Seriously

https://politicalwire.com/2025/09/05/the-world-no-longer-takes-trump-seriously/

The World No Longer Takes Trump Seriously
September 5, 2025 at 11:08 am EDT By Taegan Goddard


Tom Nichols: “The leaders of Russia, China, and North Korea are not good men. They preside over brutal autocracies replete with secret police and prison camps. But they are, nevertheless, serious men, and they know an unserious man when they see one.”

“For nearly a decade, they have taken Donald Trump’s measure, and they have clearly reached a conclusion: The president of the United States is not worthy of their respect
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The World No Longer Takes Trump Seriously (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2025 OP
Gone almost without notice in the US press: the EU and Mercosur are at threshold of a deal Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #1
it only stands to reason NJCher Sep 2025 #11
Trump is a useful idiot ... agingdem Sep 2025 #16
Let us not forget... GiqueCee Sep 2025 #12
"forfend" What a perfect word! BarbD Sep 2025 #31
Well, Duh? The rest of us knew he wasn't a serious person 8 years ago surfered Sep 2025 #2
hah, I just started a similar thought as another post. RoeVWade Sep 2025 #3
Great minds.... surfered Sep 2025 #9
I'm sure that they've known he's not a serious person for years. ShazzieB Sep 2025 #33
Trump never made it passed his terrible twos. I will never understand the appeal. n/t iscooterliberally Sep 2025 #4
Neither will I. calimary Sep 2025 #21
many americans never made it beyond that maturity either pimpbot Sep 2025 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie_Seagull Sep 2025 #26
He hates the right people for the most of his followers. Norrrm Sep 2025 #29
What's this "no longer" bullshit? No one ever has taken Trump seriously. Ray Bruns Sep 2025 #5
For real Orrex Sep 2025 #7
That was my first thought. No world leader has ever mistaken him for someone worthy of respect. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2025 #13
It was the TV show....people thought is was real ashredux Sep 2025 #6
Yep. progressoid Sep 2025 #8
MAGAs take pride in that graph pimpbot Sep 2025 #25
it is a very serious global situation that the US is headed by unserious clowns. nt wiggs Sep 2025 #10
I remind old timers that in TSF's first term there were credible and somewhat credible theories that TSF was wiggs Sep 2025 #14
Its only "controversial" in the sense that the media are feckless lightweights Cosmocat Sep 2025 #32
Strongmen gfarber Sep 2025 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2025 #17
Look at his character, look at his history, look at his business success, listen to him speak Scalded Nun Sep 2025 #18
That means they have no faith in American voters either FakeNoose Sep 2025 #19
It took them THAT LONG TO FIGURE that out? Stupid fucks! nt Exp Sep 2025 #20
Russians had him figured out years ago BaronChocula Sep 2025 #22
The world doesn't have to, but Americans have to, no matter how he talks or acts. ancianita Sep 2025 #24
Trump can con American chumps... returnee Sep 2025 #27
Now if only the media kacekwl Sep 2025 #28
Teamwork with Trump Norrrm Sep 2025 #30

Prairie Gates

(7,047 posts)
1. Gone almost without notice in the US press: the EU and Mercosur are at threshold of a deal
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:45 AM
Sep 2025

Mercosur is comprised of the big economies of Latin America. They've been trying to craft an acceptable free trade deal with the EU for over two decades. The other day it cleared its next to last hurdle, and it looks like the agricultural and environmental hold-outs are going to sign on (the big one being France, which was concerned about protecting its farmers).

That this is an endrun around US tariff policies for all involved is clear enough: they are reducing tariffs to 0 on a massive slate of items. The EU and Mercosur countries are essentially finding ways to avoid having to deal with US markets, or to significantly reduce dependence on them. To be fair, there's also a desire on the part of the EU to reduce tech infrastructure (battery) dependence on China.

Apart from a few desultory Reuters stories, this massive development has been all but ignored in the US press. Now, it has not been completely finalized yet, but it really looks likely to pass now after 25 years of hand-wringing. I mean, thanks, Trumpy! Way to create trading blocs that really want to avoid US markets! Nice job, buddy.

NJCher

(42,251 posts)
11. it only stands to reason
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 11:57 AM
Sep 2025

People are going to carve out ways to make things work. I didn't know about this, so thanks for outlining it.

trump is such an effing idiot he actually thought he could charge to do business with the U.S. Oh yeah, marketing genius that he is.

Lazy asshole is more like it.

agingdem

(8,738 posts)
16. Trump is a useful idiot ...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:02 PM
Sep 2025

world leaders know he's an incompetent revenge-driven preening clown..they know he fancies himself as the ultimate dealmaker (reneging on contracts/threatening contractors/declaring bankruptcy) .. but autocrats also understand Trump's idea of geopolitical dealmaking is "if they say nice things about me I'll give them what you want".. top secret intelligence/permission to occupy another country/weapons/a red carpet welcome...however when it comes to real world problems they know Trump is someone to "work around", with no seat at the adult table... .and so the bad guys make alliances with other bad guys excluding Trump and his team of moronic emissaries.....

GiqueCee

(3,230 posts)
12. Let us not forget...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 11:59 AM
Sep 2025

... that Trump doesn't pinch a deuce without asking Putin how to fold the toilet paper, and which hand to use.
ALL of this economic destruction, and alienation of former allies, is exactly what Putin told him to do. He's been in Putin's pocket for 30-odd years, but no one in Congress wants to acknowledge it because then they'd have to do something about it. Heaven forfend!

ShazzieB

(22,108 posts)
33. I'm sure that they've known he's not a serious person for years.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 08:55 PM
Sep 2025

They probably figured it out during his first term, along with all the other world leaders, but (like all the others) they continued to humor him because of the power and influence of the US. Now that they can clearly see he's doing his best to drag this country into the toilet, economically and otherwise, and that other world leaders have completely stopped taking him seriously, Putin & Co. have concluded that they no longer need to hide their contempt for him.

The fact that the world's strongest dictators are now signaling to the world that they know how weak Schlump is would be deliciously ironic, except for one thing: this also means that they have lost whatever respect they may have once had for America. Schlump's behavior toward Ukraine has clearly demonstrated that the U.S. can no longer be counted on to come to the aid of other democracies that under threat.

Trump has become an international laughingstock, and rightly so. Unfortunately, so has this country, for electing him a second time. I honestly don't blame anyone for viewing the situation that way. That he pulled the wool over enough people's eyes to get elected once was bad enough; but that is a thing that can happen sometimes. I'm sure our allies must have heaved a collective sigh of relief when he lost in 2020, but four years later, American voters did the unthinkable and elected him to a second term, making us all look like blithering idiots.

I see this as a sign that the US is in serious danger of losing the powerful position we've held in the world since at least the end of WWII. I really hope Democrats will have enough sense to use this in their campaigns for House and Senate seats next year.

calimary

(88,764 posts)
21. Neither will I.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:37 PM
Sep 2025

I don’t see ANYTHING even remotely honorable OR deserving of respect when I look at him. Or WHENEVER I hear his whiny voice.

Response to iscooterliberally (Reply #4)

Ray Bruns

(5,896 posts)
5. What's this "no longer" bullshit? No one ever has taken Trump seriously.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 11:32 AM
Sep 2025

At least no one who has been paying attention.

Orrex

(66,562 posts)
7. For real
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 11:36 AM
Sep 2025

He’s been a shitty clown for at least half a century, buoyed only by the US’ asinine love of the wealthy.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,185 posts)
13. That was my first thought. No world leader has ever mistaken him for someone worthy of respect.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:01 PM
Sep 2025

wiggs

(8,627 posts)
14. I remind old timers that in TSF's first term there were credible and somewhat credible theories that TSF was
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:03 PM
Sep 2025

trying for a new global order which involved the US, Russia, China, Middle Eastern states including Israel, and IIRC North Korea.

Not hard to imagine that elements of this survive today...authoritarians agreeing to divide up the world using an infinitely greedy, limited, narcissist for the final push. His neediness to be close to authoritarians surely survives. Certainly these are 'not good men'. But that may not be the end of the story. Questions of 'why' remain and are important.

I'm aware these theories and the writer who championed them is controversial even on DU...not intending to re-litigate him. Just reminding that we can't ignore the forest for the trees.

Cosmocat

(15,331 posts)
32. Its only "controversial" in the sense that the media are feckless lightweights
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 03:45 PM
Sep 2025

This was patently obvious from day one.

FFS, the idiot went to NK and left KJU walk all over him.

Something no other would leader would do if they had a gun pointed to their heads.

gfarber

(179 posts)
15. Strongmen
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:04 PM
Sep 2025


In the East, where the strongmen convene,
With regimes that are brutal and mean,
They look West with a smirk,
At Trump's shallowest quirk—
A clown in a world far too keen.

Three tyrants with power to burn,
Watch Trump with a scoff and a turn.
"He's loud, but he’s dim—
No spine, just a whim—
Not the threat we had hoped he'd return."

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Scalded Nun

(1,584 posts)
18. Look at his character, look at his history, look at his business success, listen to him speak
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:08 PM
Sep 2025

Why would ANY halfway intelligent person (good or evil) have any respect for this assclown?

FakeNoose

(39,875 posts)
19. That means they have no faith in American voters either
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:19 PM
Sep 2025

We're the ones who put Chump back in the White House.

Well not us on DU, I'm referring to "we Americans" in the larger sense...

ancianita

(42,729 posts)
24. The world doesn't have to, but Americans have to, no matter how he talks or acts.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:52 PM
Sep 2025

When Americans finally make the effort to take America back from him, they will then have to work to return America to its former place in the world. That might not happen for a good reason -- because while we were dealing with destruction and repair, the world has moved on. Even with newly elected leaders it will likely take the world a long time to allow us a seat at the table, because our voting seems so inconsistent with world human, humane, and humanitarian values.

Thanks for your post.

returnee

(785 posts)
27. Trump can con American chumps...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:30 PM
Sep 2025

…because they are ignoramuses. But he can’t con world leaders.

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