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blogslug

(39,077 posts)
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 03:46 AM Yesterday

About some of the Epstein files - from the National Security Counselors account on Bluesky

Here is the About Us page from their website: https://www.nationalsecuritylaw.org/about-us

The thread starts here:

So I hate to be That Guy, but we're entering into uncertain territory here with the Epstein Files, and it's more important than ever that we make sure we know all the facts before we blow things up.

I'm talking now about the "tips" that DOJ is now releasing. They sound super salacious and evil.

National Security Counselors 🕵 (@nationalsecuritylaw.org) 2025-12-23T18:31:15.234Z


Some selected posts from the thread:

And we need to view them with caution.

As a national security lawyer (and outspoken Trump critic), I've received my fair share of "tips." Cases that "no other lawyer is brave enough to take."

National Security Counselors 🕵 (@nationalsecuritylaw.org) 2025-12-23T18:31:15.252Z


I just read a doc about someone saying that Trump was on a boat with Epstein and the tipster and watched as her uncle tossed her baby into Lake Michigan to kill it.

DOJ is releasing these on purpose. To get people riled up and then say come on these people are clearly disturbed.

National Security Counselors 🕵 (@nationalsecuritylaw.org) 2025-12-23T18:31:15.317Z


So take a beat before you repeat something like this. Think to yourself, does this sound reasonable? Does it sound reasonable that nobody in the government would investigate it? Does it sound reasonable that it only came in after people knew Epstein was bad?

And does Trump benefit from its release?

National Security Counselors 🕵 (@nationalsecuritylaw.org) 2025-12-23T18:31:15.361Z


There is some seriously bad shit in these records, and some of it is true. But some of it is not. And if you really want to see the wrongdoers punished, you HAVE to learn to critically figure out which is which.

National Security Counselors 🕵 (@nationalsecuritylaw.org) 2025-12-23T18:31:15.385Z
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About some of the Epstein files - from the National Security Counselors account on Bluesky (Original Post) blogslug Yesterday OP
Bingo. This is exactly what some of us have noted Raven123 Yesterday #1
During Hoover's reign at the FBI, all kinds of unvetted rumors Deminpenn Yesterday #2
Gee Wally, this almost sounds like Heritage BS 3825-87867 Yesterday #3
Better yet, how about DoJ telling the truth? Kid Berwyn Yesterday #4
Keep the antennae up. yellow dahlia 19 hrs ago #5
I didn't believe that story the minute I heard it. Sogo 19 hrs ago #6
I warned about this last July ThoughtCriminal 18 hrs ago #7
Good thread. summer_in_TX 15 hrs ago #8

Raven123

(7,472 posts)
1. Bingo. This is exactly what some of us have noted
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 04:48 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Wed Dec 24, 2025, 05:39 AM - Edit history (1)

The files are a repository of data, vetted and unvetted. They are not releasing (or we haven’t seen) the results of investigations into the data.

Flood the zone to hide the truth. Also entice everyone with the salacious stuff while the money trail stays hidden

Deminpenn

(17,281 posts)
2. During Hoover's reign at the FBI, all kinds of unvetted rumors
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 05:19 AM
Yesterday

and stories were in the files of Amercans, like MLK, the FBI was tracking. That information was never removed from the person's file.

We shouldn't be surprised if there are the same kinds of unvetted information in the Epstein files. The idea is to collect information, then investigate it for truth and accuracy.

3825-87867

(1,785 posts)
3. Gee Wally, this almost sounds like Heritage BS
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 06:33 AM
Yesterday

Maybe they are so sick they're trying to get all of us divided? Yeah, that's the idea. Keep more and more distractions while they slowly destroy the country for their own gains. Gotta hand it to them. They are really sick bastards. And many are being bought along outright.
Of course, they may just be that stupid.

Sogo

(6,958 posts)
6. I didn't believe that story the minute I heard it.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:00 PM
19 hrs ago

It's not Trump's MO to be present at the scene of a crime like that.

On the other hand, if he wanted to be sure the baby's DNA could never be linked to his....

ThoughtCriminal

(14,703 posts)
7. I warned about this last July
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:56 PM
18 hrs ago
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220489837#post7

This totally worked with W Bush's AWOL problem.

Once a single "Tip" is disproven, the media will focus ALL attention on that.

summer_in_TX

(4,017 posts)
8. Good thread.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 01:03 AM
15 hrs ago

There are plenty of ways to discredit people. Dropping unvetted material is one. And then there's the more sophisticated operation that it seems likely was used to stop the career of Dan Rather in its tracks.

In s post today, Dino Alonso noted that bureaucracies often protect themselves by just deciding not to follow up on some of the tips. But…

Allegations, even horrifying ones, don’t become facts simply because they were ignored. The absence of investigation is damning, but it doesn’t substitute for one. If we collapse accusation into conclusion, we risk giving defenders of power exactly what they want, a reason to dismiss everything as sensationalism rather than confront the underlying failure of justice.
And that underlying failure is already severe enough.
What the public record shows, unmistakably, is that when allegations touch powerful men, especially men already insulated by wealth, office, or institutional loyalty, the justice system often chooses risk avoidance over truth seeking. Not because the claims are proven false, but because pursuing them would be disruptive. Costly. Dangerous to careers. Dangerous to legitimacy.
That’s not a conspiracy theory. That’s how bureaucracies preserve themselves.


https://substack.com/@dinoalonso/note/c-191316121

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