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babylonsister

(172,547 posts)
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:51 AM 3 hrs ago

Why There Will Be Almost No Movie Theaters in 5 Years

If true, how about transforming them into housing for the homeless? Or, bulldoze them and build condos.


Why There Will Be Almost No Movie Theaters in 5 Years
by Miles Mogulescu | December 24, 2025 - 6:02am


Whether Netflix or Paramount wins the battle of mega-corporations to merge with the fabled Warner Bros. movie studio, the economics of the film industry no longer support the production of enough feature films for most movie theaters to still be viable businesses. Within a few years, the theatrical feature film will be all but dead with devastating cultural, social, political, and economic impact.

snip//

A large portion of the public rightly figures that there’s no point in rushing out to theater to see a new feature for $15 or more a ticket plus parking and popcorn when they can see it at home at in a few weeks. Most theatrical films no longer pencil out.

While there were recently six major studios (plus mini majors), after Warner Bros. is sold (following other recent anti-competitive mergers like Disney buying Fox) there will only be four left.

With the collapsed distribution windows, it’s no longer feasible for those four studios to produce enough theatrical features to keep movie theaters in business. In 2025 over 100 films received a major theatrical release with inflation-adjusted box office revenues of over $15 billion while in 2024 they crashed to only 62 films with box office revenues of about $8.6 billions. Over 5,000 movie theaters have already closed their doors in the last couple of years.

snip//

Art is now called “content” and is treated as an asset class to be bought and sold by mega-corporations like they’re real estate towers or meme coins. Roughly 2-hour dramas in 3 acts have been inspiring communal audiences for about 2500 years since the Greeks but they’re about to largely disappear from theaters, to the detriment of the entire culture. This is ushering in an age with little originality or surprise and general cultural stagnation. The sale of Warners will only accelerate this trend.

As James Cameron, director of “Titanic” and “Avatar” recently said, it will be a “disaster.”


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Why There Will Be Almost No Movie Theaters in 5 Years (Original Post) babylonsister 3 hrs ago OP
Kick dalton99a 3 hrs ago #1
So sad. FalloutShelter 3 hrs ago #2
Fortunately Miles is Completely Wrong GreatGazoo 2 hrs ago #3
The huge theater in my hood closed down this past summer fwiw. babylonsister 2 hrs ago #4
That sounds like a terrible experience GreatGazoo 1 hr ago #7
I recently went to see Nuremberg, ... aggiesal 1 hr ago #23
The old theatre in my home town, smaller one, is now run by a non-profit and shows Bev54 11 min ago #43
I doubt he is wrong lonely bird 1 hr ago #14
Not sure he's wrong this time... hlthe2b 1 hr ago #18
I'll add one gay texan 1 hr ago #26
Yeah, That Didn't Work For Me Either ProfessorGAC 14 min ago #41
theaters won't be gone but they certainly won't be anything like they are now Javaman 1 hr ago #5
That's already happening or happened newdeal2 1 hr ago #8
Here in Tucson ChazInAz 34 min ago #34
Change happens ... Auggie 1 hr ago #6
This message was self-deleted by its author CrispyQ 50 min ago #29
Drive-in movies, AM hits, and vinyl records ! Pluvious 26 min ago #37
Hope drive-ins are the last to go. KS Toronado 1 hr ago #9
There are very few drive-in theatres left in Canada. Hard to get people in winter and only run Bev54 8 min ago #44
Alamo Drafthouse will probably survive. . . DinahMoeHum 1 hr ago #10
Are the years 2025 and 2024 flipped in the fourth paragraph? Hugin 1 hr ago #11
Trying to figure that out myself.... Ol Janx Spirit 1 hr ago #19
I have to admit... Hugin 1 hr ago #25
This is a creative commons article copied from another site. hunter 42 min ago #33
The indies will survive, AMC on the other can go down into the toilet as far as I'm concerned. Crowman2009 1 hr ago #12
The ticket prices are ridiculous. milestogo 1 hr ago #13
Doom and gloom predictions are often misguided PJMcK 1 hr ago #15
We've been buried in so much shitty "content" we hardly recognize the good stuff any more. hunter 1 hr ago #16
Went to a movie in a theater. Other audience members ruined it. gulliver 1 hr ago #17
They probably said that about the iceman when the electric refrigerator came out - and they were right. Wonder Why 1 hr ago #20
Do you remember the shorts? Zackzzzz 49 min ago #30
The redheaded weirdo incel in Colorado dampened my desire to go to a theater wolfie001 1 hr ago #21
I hope this is wrong Omaha Steve 1 hr ago #22
The last time I went to a movie, Zackzzzz 1 hr ago #24
I've been to movies twice since covid moonshinegnomie 56 min ago #27
They've warped our minds long enough bucolic_frolic 51 min ago #28
But where will I get my $12 popcorn? Sneederbunk 46 min ago #31
you can't turn theaters into housing for the homeless... ret5hd 45 min ago #32
One of the theaters near me turned into a MAGA church. Initech 26 min ago #38
Fine with me. The last time I saw a movie in the theaters, it was a disaster. Aristus 32 min ago #35
I watched Wake Up Dead Man last night. Initech 31 min ago #36
"This is ushering in an age with little originality or surprise and general cultural stagnation." J_William_Ryan 22 min ago #39
Rapacious corporate greed Hey Joe 19 min ago #40
I have to wear earplugs in theaters. AllyCat 14 min ago #42

FalloutShelter

(14,136 posts)
2. So sad.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:59 AM
3 hrs ago

There is nothing equivalent to seeing a movie on the big screen. This is the death of not movies… content creators will continue to call them that… this is the death of Cinema.

The arts are dying.As an author and an artist this is really depressing to me.

As if I need to be more depressed.

GreatGazoo

(4,416 posts)
3. Fortunately Miles is Completely Wrong
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 10:31 AM
2 hrs ago

Other things that "Ended" the theater business:

1914 - the outbreak of WW1

1922 - the beginning of free radio broadcasts

1925 - the Fatty Arbuckle scandal

1927 - the end of silent movies and many stars of that era

1929 - the Wall St take-over of Hollywood

1934 - the Depression

1942 - WW2 and the commandeering of studios

1948 - the beginning of free TV broadcasts

1955 - destruction of studio backlots

1963 - the end of MGM, "end of musicals as a genre"

1968 - beginning of MPAA ratings and porn

1969 - the failure of 'Hello Dolly' and "Star!'

1970 - death of the Western as a genre

1976 - VHS piracy

1978 - HBO and satellite TV

1979 - the failure of "Ishtar"

1984 - DVD piracy

1996 - internet piracy

2020 - Covid lockdowns

2023 - casting Rachel Zegler as Snow White

Box office for 2025 is +2% YoY from 2024:
https://deadline.com/2025/12/box-office-christmas-avatar-anaconda-marty-supreme-song-sung-blue-1236655872/

babylonsister

(172,547 posts)
4. The huge theater in my hood closed down this past summer fwiw.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 10:56 AM
2 hrs ago

We went to see Nuremberg a month or so ago. They were charging $6 for tap water, the theater was freezing and the volume was ear-drum shattering. We won't be going back. I will in future wait until I can watch from the comfort of my home.

I guess we'll see.

GreatGazoo

(4,416 posts)
7. That sounds like a terrible experience
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:11 AM
1 hr ago

Movie attendance in the US peaked around 1918 when people saw on average 3 films per week (!) Now under 10% of population will go to one movie in any given week. So the decline has been long and the business is not really expanding but film going is a ritual. The number of theaters will adjust to demand but we are entering a preservation phase that embraces the experience of movie going as unique and social. Directors and other enthusiasts have made big investments to keep some of the most legendary theaters going.

I hope you can find a decent theater to see films you are interested in.

aggiesal

(10,518 posts)
23. I recently went to see Nuremberg, ...
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:54 AM
1 hr ago

The last time I went to the movies was in 2023 to see Killers of the Flower Moon (Excellent movie).

I've been going to more live theater than movie theaters.

Back to Nuremberg, online the tickets cost $8.99 + service fee, so I didn't order online.
When I went to the theater, there were only about a dozen cars in the lot.
When I entered the theater, there were no ticket sellers, only ticket kiosks and it took me to the same website when ordering online. The price is $8.99 but no service fee. I expected to pay $15 - $20. And all seats were reserved seating and all were still available.

The concessions were outrageous priced, but that was expected.
When I walked into the theater I was the only one. The screen was blanked.

The movie was scheduled for 9:15 pm. At 9 pm commercials started to play
The same commercials you see on TV. Then at 9:15 pm the trailers started.
Right around that time 2 more people arrived, for a total of 3 people.
Remember the scheduled movie time was 9:15 pm.
Well for the next 30 minutes trailer after trailer ... played
After 9:30 pm, each new trailer annoyed me.

Movie started at 9:45 pm, which really p1$$ed me off.
Yes the volume was way too loud, but the movie was great.

Didn't get out of the theater until after midnight. I probably was the last person out, because I couldn't find 1.employee.

Is the theater experience dying?
I believe it is.

Bev54

(13,155 posts)
43. The old theatre in my home town, smaller one, is now run by a non-profit and shows
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:53 PM
11 min ago

older films and classics, the popcorn is reasonably priced and all profits go to charity. They could not compete with the new large theatre. It is now full for the films as people get to enjoy a movie on the large screen and know they are giving to charity. I thought it was a brilliant idea.

lonely bird

(2,710 posts)
14. I doubt he is wrong
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:33 AM
1 hr ago

Collapse of competition always causes price increases and many times quality decreases

Of more impact will be increased digital tech. Think Ready Player One and its Oasis.

The techs that developed in the list you presented were part of the so-called forward movement of tech. In and of themselves they could not accomplish what is on the horizon. VR, holography, AI will all impact the circuses part of bread and circuses. For that is what entertainment is. Its existence is to keep the masses focused away from wealth transfer.

hlthe2b

(112,626 posts)
18. Not sure he's wrong this time...
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:47 AM
1 hr ago

I only go occasionally, but when I have, crowds have noticeable dwindled (and not just during the day). That is not just Denver, but suburbs and northern Colorado.

ProfessorGAC

(75,691 posts)
41. Yeah, That Didn't Work For Me Either
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:50 PM
14 min ago

Besides, it was a remake of a remake!
Though I prefer Mag 7 over 7 Samurai.

Javaman

(65,053 posts)
5. theaters won't be gone but they certainly won't be anything like they are now
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:08 AM
1 hr ago

I think they will fall into the "boutique" category.

newdeal2

(4,700 posts)
8. That's already happening or happened
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:13 AM
1 hr ago

Most theaters around here have turned into the "luxury" or experiential type. I'm pretty sure those will survive, but no we won't be seeing new giant 30 screen theaters with cheap tickets again.

Also, the author forgets Hollywood isn't the only game in town. I see a lot of chains offering foreign films, especially from India, which is a different revenue stream.

ChazInAz

(2,991 posts)
34. Here in Tucson
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:30 PM
34 min ago

We have a co-op cinema: The Loft, right on Speedway, our main drag. It's a great place that shows foreign films, art films, festivals, etc.. Tickets are just a little pricey for non-members, but I can count on them not wasting our time on superhero dreck.

Auggie

(32,820 posts)
6. Change happens ...
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:11 AM
1 hr ago

I remember milk delivery, gas station attendants, green stamps, typewriters, rotary phones, rabbit ears, a morning newspaper ...

Response to Auggie (Reply #6)

Bev54

(13,155 posts)
44. There are very few drive-in theatres left in Canada. Hard to get people in winter and only run
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:56 PM
8 min ago

in the summer. I loved going to the drive-in and took my grandchildren to the one in my old home town so they could experience it at least once.

DinahMoeHum

(23,321 posts)
10. Alamo Drafthouse will probably survive. . .
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:15 AM
1 hr ago

. . .but that's because they are also restaurants/bars featuring movies.

Other movie theaters that will survive will be the small "arty" picture houses that will also serve as panel discussion forums for the films or as fundraisers for the topics involved.

PM me for further info on several good ones in my area.

Hugin

(37,319 posts)
11. Are the years 2025 and 2024 flipped in the fourth paragraph?
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:18 AM
1 hr ago

It’s the only way that statement shows a decline.

Ol Janx Spirit

(614 posts)
19. Trying to figure that out myself....
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:48 AM
1 hr ago

I checked the article and it does actually say, "in 2025 over 100 films received a major theatrical release with inflation-adjusted box office revenues of over $15 billion while in 2024 they crashed to only 62 films with box office revenues of about $8.6 billions."

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/

It looks like it peaked in 2018 at just under $12 billion (not inflation adjusted,) but other than that the numbers would not suggest that anything has really "crashed."

I don't know how to pull major theatrical releases, but overall releases are only slightly down.

It only takes one or two big franchises to drive revenue over a several year period, and as long as theatres continue to offer what you can't get at home--a very large screen, immersive sound, etc.--I really do not see them going away.

Theatres in my area are still upgrading and new ones are being built. That does not suggest that they will be gone in five years.

And the obvious flaw in that citation of data suggests to me that the author, Miles Mogulescu, does not pay enough attention to what he says to be taken seriously.

Maybe that's why his profile page says simply, "Page not found."



http://www.smirkingchimp.com/profile/miles-mogulescu

Hugin

(37,319 posts)
25. I have to admit...
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:00 PM
1 hr ago

I smell AI.

*insert screenshot from “Blade Runner”*

There’s no doubt that the entire structure of entertainment has and is shifting. I have to wonder if one measure, “Box Office”, is adequate to make broad assertions about the health of the industry any longer.

Thanks for linking to some actual stats.

Crowman2009

(3,393 posts)
12. The indies will survive, AMC on the other can go down into the toilet as far as I'm concerned.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:26 AM
1 hr ago

We have an independent theater here in town named Capri which not only shows movies, but has concerts, lectures and virtual art exhibits as well. It helps theaters to have different types of entertainment in these venues. The same way they did up to the 1920's before movies were the only attraction.

milestogo

(22,450 posts)
13. The ticket prices are ridiculous.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:31 AM
1 hr ago

I'd rather watch a good movie in the theater than at home. But the theatres are putting themselves out of business. The price of tickets and of refreshments is just too much.

PJMcK

(24,642 posts)
15. Doom and gloom predictions are often misguided
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:36 AM
1 hr ago

We will see how technology continues to change entertainment and how audiences consume it.

In fact, there are more options for entertainment than ever before. Business models change but the desire for diversions never ceases.

Back when Napster assaulted the music business, it was predicted that it was the end of music yet today there are far more choices for listeners. Certainly the digital evolution has caused tremendous changes but the art form and its business is still thriving. It’s just different than it was.

Coping with change is hard but accurately predicting the future is harder. One amazing thing about humans is our ability to adapt to change. It’s part of how evolution works.

All my opinion, of course. For reference, I’ve enjoyed a nearly 50 year career in music and it’s been good to me and I’ve been good to it, I’d like to think.

hunter

(40,328 posts)
16. We've been buried in so much shitty "content" we hardly recognize the good stuff any more.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:47 AM
1 hr ago

Increasingly sophisticated Computer Generated Imagery and AI isn't making things any better.

It's obvious that many movies start as a "concept" for some "product" and start rolling before they have any story to tell. Sometimes these movies can be saved in production, more often they cannot.

I don't think cinema will go away entirely, it will however begin to resemble live theater in it's distribution, everything from high school productions to big city movie houses; stories that are heavier than the usual "casual viewing" and "how to" content of YouTube and similar sites.

Here in the twenty first century anyone with a decent camera and computer can make a movie. The ability to tell a compelling story is rare.

gulliver

(13,699 posts)
17. Went to a movie in a theater. Other audience members ruined it.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:47 AM
1 hr ago

The last time I went to a movie was last year. About thirty minutes in, a group of about five teen girls seated themselves about 20 feet away. There were only a few other people in the audience. The teen girls immediately pulled out their phones. They were also talking and laughing. They weren't watching the movie at all.

I turned toward them and made eye contact, letting them know they were spoiling the movie. They paid no attention. Theater staff made no attempt to enforce the rules that had been plainly shown before the movie. "No phones. No talking." I walked out. Down about $40.

SMH. I blame the theater management. But they're probably under such financial pressure that they don't feel they can kick out poorly raised teens and yahoos. The teens probably buy a ticket to another movie and then switch around to whatever movie has low attendance to live it up.

Wonder Why

(6,513 posts)
20. They probably said that about the iceman when the electric refrigerator came out - and they were right.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:48 AM
1 hr ago

Overpriced movies.

Even more overpriced junk food

Terrible movies that are just hyped to death that you can wait to see until they are on Tubi for free.

Lots of promos and ads while you wait to see the main feature

Zackzzzz

(246 posts)
30. Do you remember the shorts?
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:15 PM
49 min ago

The one I remember was a visual of being the driver in a car.
It started down a country road and what appeared over the road
was the opening crawl, the name of the writer, the producer, the driver, the.........
and as you went down the road the names never ended.
This was before Star Wars.

wolfie001

(6,959 posts)
21. The redheaded weirdo incel in Colorado dampened my desire to go to a theater
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:49 AM
1 hr ago

And that happened quite a few years ago.

Zackzzzz

(246 posts)
24. The last time I went to a movie,
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:58 AM
1 hr ago

Some man with a very long spine sat in front of me, I'm 5'1".
And someone behind me coughed and sneezed through the whole movie.

I saw the periphery of the movie and came down with something quite nasty.
But on the good side, because I was sick for two weeks, I lost 6 pounds.

moonshinegnomie

(3,824 posts)
27. I've been to movies twice since covid
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:08 PM
56 min ago

No real desire to go again. I’ll wait till I can stream it. The cost of going to a theater between tickets and snacks just isn’t worth it

bucolic_frolic

(53,798 posts)
28. They've warped our minds long enough
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:13 PM
51 min ago

The public can no longer determine the difference between fantasy and reality. Hence the situation we are in today.

ret5hd

(22,127 posts)
32. you can't turn theaters into housing for the homeless...
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:19 PM
45 min ago

all the cots would roll down towards the screen and be all jammed together.

Initech

(107,244 posts)
38. One of the theaters near me turned into a MAGA church.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:38 PM
26 min ago

I went to one of the restaurants nearby it and saw a guy wearing a shirt from the church and a "Make America Great Again" hat, that told me everything that I needed to know.

Aristus

(71,537 posts)
35. Fine with me. The last time I saw a movie in the theaters, it was a disaster.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:32 PM
32 min ago

The film was "1917'; a very good film, which I enjoyed very much. I would have enjoyed it more if it weren't for the couple (of paralyzingly brainless, subhuman wastes of protoplasm) sitting next to me in a sold-out theater.

They talked out loud the entire time; they had nothing to say, and chose to say it as loud and for as prolonged a period as they could. Their fortress-thick skulls were impervious to dirty looks, shh-ing, and more than a few whispered "Could you please be quiet?"'s. I would have walked out except for the riveting narrative of "1917". I couldn't believe these two festering turds with vocal cords had bothered to slither out of their tar-paper shack in order to come watch a new-fangled moving-picture show. When they could have just stayed home and talked to the moldy, rotting walls.

As you can probably tell, this was not the kind of experience I will choose to pay for again. If the obnoxious, rude, empty-headed blitherers won't stay home for their entertainment, I sure as hell will. The more I see of squalid, substandard humanity, the more I understand hermits and mountain men. Who wants to pay to spend time around these jerkwads?

Farewell, movie theaters; no way but this...

Initech

(107,244 posts)
36. I watched Wake Up Dead Man last night.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:33 PM
31 min ago

The movie is amazing, it should be nominated for Best Picture. Daniel Craig gave a Best Actor worthy performance, and Josh Brolin did as Best Supporting Actor, and Rian Johnson should get Best Director. But I can't help but wonder what it would be like if it was released to theaters and had actual audiences lining up instead of being on Netflix.

It will be absolutely wild when the DBO numbers are no longer a measure for the success of a movie.

J_William_Ryan

(3,282 posts)
39. "This is ushering in an age with little originality or surprise and general cultural stagnation."
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:42 PM
22 min ago

Nonsense.

Creative originality will simply move from the big screen to the small – it’s already been happening for years. Some of the best offerings where created for streaming services.

Hey Joe

(375 posts)
40. Rapacious corporate greed
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:45 PM
19 min ago

Has just about ruined everything in this country.
Private equity, venture capitalism, mergers and acquisitions, monopolies and oligopolies.
Vulture capitalism is ruining the character of this nation and limiting the freedom of choice for all people.

AllyCat

(18,464 posts)
42. I have to wear earplugs in theaters.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:50 PM
14 min ago

I thought I was the only one until my family started asking if I had extras.

Popcorn and 2 sodas as a “special” are nearing $30.

Idiot theatergoers on their phones.

Have to bring a blanket even in summer because it’s so cold in there.

We go maybe once a year.

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