This sounds like a good plan if Trump invades Greenland.

[Swede]

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. This sounds pretty dire. It would be much better than a shooting war . . .

between us and NATO.

Scary nonetheless.

[Ars Longa]

25. Democrats run to repair all this!! If it is possible!!

[TBF]

42. OK, why don't you explain to us how "democrats run to repair all this!!" -

when Trump has a complete majority in House & Senate - and has the Supreme Court. You tell me how this is the democrats fault and how (and why) it is their job.

[Jack Valentino]

50. It's the job of Democrats because we are ALL that anyone has!!!!

[BidenRocks]

61. Private!

Charge that machine gun!

[Escurumbele]

78. Campaign hard against what the convicted felon is doing. Educate the country, explain in plain English anyone

can understand how it affects us all, make MAGAts understand that the fact they voted for the convicted felon it does not exempt them from the consequences of his crimes, they will suffer too.

Campaign hard, be ruthless with the truth, start planning to rebuild everything trump has and continues to destroy, make republicans feel guilty and ashamed (I know, its not easy, they are shameless) but with enough campaigning it can be accomplished, people need to hear the truth, make it simple for all to understand (I repeat myself but that is incredibly important), use the money to have billboards all over the country, make sure to go on TV any time you can, including Fox News, and be ultra prepared for the MAGAts on TV to fight you hard, to not allow you to talk, but you must talk louder.

Throw legislation out there to combat the crimes, even if they don't pass make sure the country knows and understands that it is republicans who are against truth, honesty, and the good of the people, that it is republicans who continue to be accomplices of the crimes being committed by trump and his minions.

Impeach the bastard, use the 25th Amendment, it is OK to put Vance there for a while, he is very unpopular, has no charisma and will not last long. Despite his education from Yale, he is stupid enough to also commit a crime in no time, then he too can be impeached, and I believe that even republicans will vote against him to take him out of office.

CAMPAIGN HARD!

And there is more, but I stop here, you are welcome to add to the list...

[TBF]

88. Magats aren't understanding anything --

but thankfully they are not really half the country, maybe a quarter to a third at most. That is tied up with the churches, they've been convinced that the orange one has been sent to save them (yes, they are crazy, but I digress). Reaching moderates is a lot more likely to be fruitful, which is why I'm supporting James Talarico here in TX.

Impeach him? Of course. But we do not have the majority. If we can actually have an election and get enough seats then we can move (and I expect the party to be ready). The job now, on the ground, is to try to keep them from stealing the midterms.

My point is that we can't count on a weakened party to save us. It's going to take all of us in the streets. And we've already moved beyond "peaceful". One thing I do think we can do is support Indy media - folks like Meidas Touch & Aaron Parness are breaking through and reaching millions. Countering the regime's propaganda is a big job, but it's something we don't have to rely on the party to try to do. We can each do that with paid subscriptions (if able) and sharing the free posts so they get widespread visibility. I've read that the Black Panthers are active in Philly right now, and we need that energy across the country.

So, I guess I do agree that it's 2-pronged (at least - there are probably more prongs):
1. What we'd like the party to do when they have a majority again
2. What we can do on the ground to affect national opinions, influence conversations, and ensure that elections actually happen (ie organize - do what we can where we can - Indivisible, Black Panthers, etc


ps - and I did want to thank you for taking the question seriously - this is just a starting point - we need to mobilize

[Shipwack]

49. Yes, they will, however....

We have shown the world that one branch of the government can behave lawlessly and the other two won’t stop him.

Even if we are able to go back to the status quo, we will still not be trusted. The Democrats can’t stay in power indefinitely. The next Republicans in power might do the whole thing all over again.

It’ll take decades (if ever) before we are trusted enough to have a major influence on the world stage again.

[progressoid]

73. Seems to me that we've proven that we don't deserve to be trusted

with any influence on the world stage for a few decades.

[LuckyCharms]

2. His goal is to use Greenland as a proxy to dissolve NATO. That's his intent.

Dissolve NATO with spinnable deniability as to that was his intent all along.

He's doing Putin's bidding.

[FakeNoose]

5. Actually that's Putin's goal ... Chump is just the useful idiot who's doing his dirty work

Needless to say, no American can sit by and allow this to happen.

[LuckyCharms]

9. Yes, that's what I meant when I said he was doing Putin's bidding.

And he's spinning it like it is because of US security interest.

He wants to dissolve NATO because his boss told him to.

And MAGA will hail him as a hero.

[orangecrush]

20. This

[dweller]

3. . . .

😐



✌🏻

[IcyPeas]

10. I hope that was don junior.

[thought crime]

22. If it was JD Vance the Polar Bear would choke and die

[Beartracks]

28. It can't be Vance. There's a spine. n/t

[Efilroft Sul]

32. Cocaine Polar Bear

[RockRaven]

4. All of those things are what America deserves for electing this piece of shit.

American voters chose, repeatedly, to destroy the US.

[LudwigPastorius]

6. Harsh, but fair.

Just ask the Germans about the consequences of putting Nazis in charge of your country.

[FakeNoose]

7. I'm an American in my 70s and I've never voted R in my life

Please don't lump us all together.

[Dave says]

11. Never voted R, never will

[thought crime]

24. Same here but the ship is going down and we're all on it.

[ananda]

34. Same

If a Dem wasn't on the ballot, I'd vote
Green before any Republican...

or not vote if there was only a R.

[Bluestocking]

38. I'm 60 and have only voted for Democrats.

Will never vote for anything else.

[calimary]

44. Same here.

For me it starts with the GOP’s infernal intentions to deny women our rights. To push us back into mere breeder status as our rights are taken away one by one.

I’ve always voted Dem.

[Skittles]

66. THANK YOU

[Joinfortmill]

54. He didn't win. Someday we'll learn how they cheated.

[yellow dahlia]

56. Truth.

[SupportSanity]

72. Electiontruthalliance.org

They’ve figured it out in detail.

[Wiz Imp]

86. ElectionTruthAlliance is a joke.

They''ve "figured out" nothing. They are grifters trying to take advantage of the gullible. Really sad that people here continue to believe their bullshit.

[Patton French]

55. You're wishing those things on the 75+ million of us who voted for Kamala Harris?

No.

[RockRaven]

57. What has wishing got to do with anything?

What is coming for America is what Americans hath wrought.

That's got nothing to do with what I wish.

[electric_blue68]

62. Excuse me? He won by a small amount of the total vote...

The Electorate College not withstanding.

You think all these people say like ?46% or more deserve that type of mayhem?!
I don't think so!

[róisín_dubh]

64. Then they ought to get up...

And fucking DO something besides living in La-La-land.
My sister and brother in law are politically astute and leftist, and they just shrug their shoulders and worry about their dwindling bank accounts.

I live abroad and regret to have to call my mum to tell her I’m not coming back anytime soon.

[RockRaven]

69. Do not overlook the 90M who didn't cast a vote. They chose too.

[EllieBC]

79. Not voting also has consequences.

And there’s no reason to stay home and not vote.

[Dan]

8. and the additional benefit would be

Trump would be impeached and convicted...

MAGA couldn't stop it - because this type of hurt would impact the "thinking parts" of America.

[Fil1957]

12. If DJT is made to believe that would happen if he invaded, he might change his mind, only because of losing the

Olympics and World Cup.

He could give a rat's ass about the other stuff.

[thought crime]

27. Macron needs to step up and provide nuclear deterrence.

[DFW]

68. Vaporizing Chicago and Houston will not deter much.

Besides, Macron will not do any such thing. Thus, the threat of same is useless.

[flashman13]

13. I believe everything in this post and much more will come to pass if Trump attacks Greenland.

Feel free to call me naive. The U.S. military will not let Trump destroy NATO. We have spent the last 80 years creating and nurturing NATO as much to shield us as to protect western Europe. The military is made up of a very large number of smart well educated people. They understand the consequences better than anyone. They would refuse to carry out an insane order to attack Greenland and in turn our allies.

I sure as hell don't want to test my theory.

[BComplex]

16. Yeah. Because the counter point powers that be have been so good about stopping him

so far? No. The powers that be are not stopping this, because in America, the supreme court is like the Pope to us: nobody tells their lawlessness to go take a hike, and the republican supremes are the ones allowing ALL of what is happening to us.

[flashman13]

45. I just want to mention that the military doesn't have to do anything that it doesn't want to do.

It has all the real guns. The military is always the power behind the throne. Historically, when they withdraw their support, the government falls and flees. We are so far out into uncharted waters anything is possible. I stand by my statement, the U.S. military will not destroy NATO.

[thought crime]

31. Use of the military could be a bluff.

But Trump's threats are already a Military Assault. He is taking Greenland at the point of a gun. Assault with a deadly weapon.

If his "negotiation" fails, the US Military could take over Nuuk in less than an hour. He would then announce that Greenland has been annexed. That's the kind of military action Trump likes.

[flashman13]

46. Of course they could take Nuuk in an hour. Then we are at war with NATO and Europe.

The consequences would be catastrophic. See Swede's opening post.

I stand by my statement, the U.S. military will not destroy NATO.

[rampartd]

43. the us military , like any roman legion or janissary army

protects the peace of he who pays them.

[flashman13]

47. If the military shows up at the Treasury and instructs the workers inside to issue paychecks, they will issue checks.

Of course that's a coup which will be staged in defense of the Constitution, NATO and world stability. That is how dangerous Trump is. He doesn't have to nuke the world to crash it. His insatiable thirst for power can crash everything with one intemperate move if the military lets him have his way. We just saw during the Covid pandemic how delicate world stability really is. Also remember it is only American power, coupled with NATO and our Asian allies, that keeps China and Russia from running amok.

I guarantee that if it comes to a choice between Trump's crazy shit or stability under the military, the bankers are going to back the military. I know that sounds beyond crazy. But that is how close we really are to the edge of chaos.

[rampartd]

48. i have been thinking that a decent general or junta would be preferable to this

we are going to need years to establish a stable democracy after this crazy shit.

[flashman13]

59. Actually I'm somewhat optimistic there. I think we could reestablish a functioning democratic government fairly quickly.

But it will take a generation at least to reestablish trust in the government by the people or trust in the U.S.A. by the world. And then only if post Trump America puts the needs of the many ahead of the greed of the few.

[rampartd]

63. "the needs of the many" - i really like the utilitarian bottom line

we are currently burning the sustenance of a generation or more to facilitate the apotheosis of one degenerate old fool.

it turns maslow's pyramid upside down.

without trust in government, a functioning democracy seems fragile.

at the very least, the executive must be checked and balanced to a degree that the court seems unwilling to allow.
at the very least, elections should have verifiable results.


oh well, tomorrow another day.

[LudwigPastorius]

60. "They would refuse to carry out an insane order to attack..."

I'm not very confident of that.

Trump and Hegseth's generals just invaded and kidnapped the head of state of a sovereign nation - a clearly illegal act initiated by clearly illegal orders.

[LearnedHand]

92. Like the military stopped him from the illegal boat attacks or invasion?

[Jarqui]

14. There would be fallout from that plan

If the US economy collapses - the whole world economy collapses. That will topple other governments

Russia and China would have to see this as an opportunity. US bases close, Russia can grab more real estate.
Is Trump going to save Taiwan? He'll have too many other problems.

It would be a very unstable situation. The major military powers in the world may see it as an opportunity to grab countries from the vacuum that was NATO.

Very dangerous situation with Trump itching to fire some nukes at someone.

[Swede]

17. That's what happens when you start a war.

nt

[OldBaldy1701E]

80. "If the US economy collapses - the whole world economy collapses."

That seems... a bit egotistical.

We are not that important to the rest of the world.

We just think we are.

[Jarqui]

83. US GDP is over 25% of the world GDP, 2nd in purchasing power parity

If that goes in the toilet, it drags a bunch if not most of the other economies down with it.

That can trigger countries to call debt - not just on the US.

The biggest country in purchasing power parity is China. They do a lot of business with the US. US economy goes down - that will hurt China's economy. Canada's biggest trading partner is the US ... Mexico ... Like dominos.

It is not egotistical - it is closer to basic economic facts.

[IronLionZion]

15. Putin loves this plan

It would take a long time to rebuild that trust. Like Germany after WW2.

[thought crime]

33. Spot on.

It is already going to take generation to recover from the damage Trump has caused.

[oldmanlynn]

18. What we really need is

We need the entire world shunning Maga. We need to let Europe and these other countries know that this is just a temporary nasty. Spell brought on by Maga Republicans.

[SSJVegeta]

19. Not so much a plan as pure facts

[VMA131Marine]

21. Trump is so stupid ...

that even if he understands all the bad things that will happen if he tries to annex Greenland he’s likely to still do it anyway.

[Mme. Defarge]

23. Any time

is TACO TIME. . .

[aggiesal]

26. Rumor in the White House says that they will not call it Greenland ...

instead it will be called RedWhite&Blueland.
I'm betting he'll call it the State of Trumpland.
🤣😂🤣

[thought crime]

36. We need to make sure Greenlanders understand this.

They may not like their association with Greenland, but if the US takes over they are done.

[Laurelin]

76. I assume trump wants Greenland

So he can name it after himself. Yes, I realize that's insane but he IS insane.

[Beartracks]

29. And Putin laughs and laughs and laughs.

[thought crime]

37. And Xi probably hopes and hopes and hopes.

Hopes Trump provides an perfect example for China to justify a take over of Taiwan "for national security purposes".

[Brotherhood_Knight]

30. Yea

Europe halt all buying of US bonds. Total Sanctions on the US; even join China in a massive sanction plan against the US

Europe needs to take this very seriously. It all needs to be ready to go on the same day Trump tries this.

I am no longer a supporter of the US in any way moving forward after this. Trump will have killed my beloved USA.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

85. Welcome to DU

[LymphocyteLover]

35. Our local paper had a piece this morning claiming that Greenland really wants to break away from Denmark and is willing

to make a "deal" with the US. Sounds like some fine MAGA BS but it's truly gross that they are normalizing this fucking bullshit.

[NJCher]

39. did they state

why they wanted to break away from Denmark?

[LymphocyteLover]

70. Not that I saw

[Wiz Imp]

87. Polling has shown that a majority of Greenlanders would prefer to be an independent country.

However, I believe it was like 3% who were in favor of being part of the US. If the choice is between being part of Denmark or part of the US, like 97% of the population prefers Denmark.

[dem4decades]

53. Your local paper sounds like the right-wing rag near us. I canceled it after years of being a subscriber.

People talk about supporting local press but not when they're just like the NY Post.

[LymphocyteLover]

71. It's a conservative-leaning paper. I've canceled it and resubscribed a few times over the years.

They have published a fair amount of pieces critical to this evil administration as well as several absurd pro-trump pieces. Mostly I get it just for the local news.

[Celerity]

67. Greenlandic independence (Greenlandic: Namminersulivinneq) is a political ambition of most political parties (such as

Siumut, Inuit Ataqatigiit, Naleraq, and Nunatta Qitornai), advocacy groups, and individuals of Greenland, an autonomous territory within the Kingdom of Denmark, to become an independent sovereign state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenlandic_independence

[Bluestocking]

40. I think because the repugs don't want to lose the maggot vote

Rather than impeachment or 25th amendment I think Rump will just die. The repugs will have him terminated permanently.

[Bluestocking]

41. NATO cannot just let this go

It is not like Venezuela, Cuba, Iran or North Korea. Doing nothing would be worse for everyone.

[leanforward]

51. Exit from NATO is a global depression

NATO is an economic generator “free trade”.
Trade has already been disrupted. Along with our business of our government.
What is our national deficit? It seems Republican leaders lean away from balancing the budget. And, take away from “we the people” and give it to the rich. And there goes the nation debt service payment.

[OC375]

52. If you're a billionaire, all that can be planned for

Doesn’t guarantee you’re going to get away, but you’ll have a head start… To some, that’s called “acceptable terms”, unfortunately.

[SupportSanity]

75. Billionaires already know what the plan is.

They stay in touch and they all get together several times a year at various international locations.

No need to think billionaires are uninformed.

Sigh…..

[The Revolution]

58. I think they should give us a chance to impeach

And remove him. Should have already been done, obviously, but maybe this would actually be too far.

[Old Crank]

65. All military personnel

Become POWs.

[Sharma Dreihund]

74. Why does he believe people who kiss his ass?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/12/what-can-the-eu-and-nato-do-to-stop-trump-from-trying-to-claim-greenland

[Lovie777]

77. Well the US economy is already on life support...............

NATO's securities will be no more. Canada will have to build a wall, similar situation like South and North Korea's..............

et al.,

[RoeVWade]

81. Story on paramilitary hunting Americans. Will they start a hostage collection to bargain?

I didn't link the story, but you can easily find it.

[Gordcanuck]

82. It's true, if the Europeans dump US debt,

and NATO collapses, and you have lost all your friends, it’s going to get very rough times for our country too 🇨🇦. Can it be stopped?
Yes, believe it or not you have the power, but so far not the will.

[malthaussen]

84. Doesn't matter, because the current Administration doesn't care about consequences...

... only the immediate gratification of the ego. Or the id, if you prefer.

-- Mal

[maliaSmith]

89. Trump attacking Greenland

If he attacks Greenland, all his international properties must be taken by the country they're in. Also confiscate all of Kushner's properties and businesses. Calif should take over his hotel and golf course also.

[Evolve Dammit]

90. This may just be what he really wants to do? And he could care less? Vlad will be happy

[creon]

91. Proceed as indicated.

That is a correct course of action