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Now he looks like an idiot? ... (Original Post) aggiesal Sunday OP
One would think they should find that out first Uncle Joe Sunday #1
Came here to suggest he thought of that first. Irish_Dem Sunday #10
The Oil industry popsdenver 14 hrs ago #73
The only way the oil industry will do it is if the US taxpayer fully funds the oil production. Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #74
Did they not tell him that in their secret meetings beforehand? Beartracks Sunday #27
Do you really think he would have listened? You can't tell him anything. paleotn Sunday #30
I guess I needed a "facetious emoji" for my post! Beartracks Sunday #41
Sorry for my misinterpretation. And big oil is most definitely NOT going to do that on their dime. paleotn Sunday #43
Of course they told him Ohioboy 11 hrs ago #78
Unless you are Trump PatSeg Sunday #29
Yeah, his uncle taught at MIT, you know!!! He has the best brain, you know!!! hatrack Sunday #31
Poor, poor Donald PatSeg Sunday #44
It's like they didn't have a plan or something underpants Sunday #2
incredible how 'concepts of a plan" don't survive contact with reality rampartd Sunday #12
I've thought Trump was an idiot since the late 1970s PJMcK Sunday #3
So did his mother... GiqueCee Sunday #4
Per Politifact, there is no evidence that she ever said that spooky3 Sunday #51
I believe his sister, the judge, happy feet 16 hrs ago #68
I'd seen it here... GiqueCee 8 hrs ago #82
Sadly that disaster involved and impacted millions of people. efhmc 9 hrs ago #81
The only thing he's good at is manipulation of others. ImmigrantsWGTJD Sunday #34
All dictators end badly PJMcK Sunday #40
ALSO good at grifting, stealing our money and lying vapor2 Sunday #58
Now? Dan Sunday #5
My question exactly. patphil Sunday #48
Oopsie...a dead end alley! Hope22 Sunday #6
I just broke this. You should pay for it. milestogo Sunday #7
He, not only, LOOKS like an idiot indigoth Sunday #8
I've always known that t-rump was a total idiot. He lucked into millions from his family and continues to be lucky... wcmagumba Sunday #9
Trump is a toddler with a loader gun that cannot be taken away Bok_Tukalo Sunday #11
Impeachment would do it. n/t returnee Sunday #17
That's not happening. Bok_Tukalo Sunday #21
Didn't say it was happening. returnee Sunday #46
The real reason is, he wanted a cut for himself like Putin does. Justice matters. Sunday #54
He has always looked like an idiot. I have always thought he was an idiot. cksmithy Sunday #13
He's looked like an idiot for decades... NotHardly Sunday #14
He stated emphatically that the Oil Companies can't wait to get in there and get all that oil. Marie Marie Sunday #15
Fortunately for everyone concerned (except Trump), the oil execs are smarter than he is, Ocelot II Sunday #23
Kick dalton99a Sunday #16
He was born an idiot. It doesn't change during your life when you're born that way. ashredux Sunday #18
He was born a lot of things state of stupid Sunday #39
Great song! brakester 15 hrs ago #71
Appropriate Aviation Pro Sunday #19
When didn't he? Ocelot II Sunday #20
How ungrateful of them. RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES Raven123 Sunday #22
That's cuz the moran thinks he knows everybody's business better than they do. usonian Sunday #24
His idiocy is CONFIRMED, yet again. Martin Eden Sunday #25
But it knocked Trump's Epstien files connection out of the headlines for a week... Beartracks Sunday #26
Exxon's CEO tells Trump that Venezuela's Oil is uninvestible! LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #28
It's a negotiating ploy. sop Sunday #32
They didn't have a long range plan for after the abduction of Machado. WestMichRad Sunday #33
I foresee the Sunni Triangle with jungles. paleotn Sunday #36
KKKaptain bonespurs will send his "suckers and losers" to die in Venezuela. Justice matters. Sunday #55
Anyone with a function frontal cortex knew it all along.... paleotn Sunday #35
Does that mean we fly Maduro back and drop him off? NBachers Sunday #37
"Garbage": How Trump Used to Talk About Venezuelan Oil LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #38
I look forward to the day when nobody cares how he feels or what he says. calimary Sunday #49
That description is not really correct Trailrider1951 14 hrs ago #72
and the tanker ships joho260 13 hrs ago #76
NOW? 3Hotdogs Sunday #42
Can't pass the buck to Biden for THIS fuck-up, clown. Grokenstein Sunday #45
But he will sure as hell try, won't he? Ray Bruns 17 hrs ago #62
I bet security is the main issue. BradBo Sunday #47
Yeah and Fuck Off Blowhard PEDO Homicidal Cha Sunday #50
Maniac, fool, clown BlueWaveNeverEnd Sunday #52
No wonder that despicable clown bankrupted casinos... Justice matters. Sunday #53
Donald, why don't you force the oil companies to invest and take over the oil? Norrrm Sunday #56
Or you could invest your own money. Norrrm Sunday #57
Don't you remember? ... aggiesal Yesterday #60
As Emily Litella would say... Totally Tunsie Yesterday #59
"He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot, but don't let that fool you... alterfurz Yesterday #61
He always looks like an idiot. liberalla 17 hrs ago #63
So Trump decided to blame Exxon for telling the truth about the uninvestibility of the Venezuelan oil industry. Martin68 16 hrs ago #64
Oh gee, how silly of me. freethought 16 hrs ago #65
He may look like an idiot, and sound like an idiot... Shipwack 16 hrs ago #66
K&R spanone 16 hrs ago #67
trump's feelings were hurt LetMyPeopleVote 15 hrs ago #69
What he's not telling us .... FakeNoose 10 hrs ago #80
Looks like an idiot? vapor2 15 hrs ago #70
He has always "looked" like an idiot, Mme. Defarge 13 hrs ago #75
He's DEMENTED. Joinfortmill 13 hrs ago #77
Trump is a moron fixated by fabric swatches. Kid Berwyn 11 hrs ago #79

Irish_Dem

(79,950 posts)
10. Came here to suggest he thought of that first.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:10 PM
Sunday

He assumed everyone would do his bidding.

popsdenver

(1,579 posts)
73. The Oil industry
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:58 PM
14 hrs ago

will suggest to him, that he takes all the monies he is withholding from Blue States, and give it to them to rebuild the oil industry down there in Venezuela.............If he needs more money,..... he can just wave his magic fecal covered finger, and run the national debt up a few trillion more......

Irish_Dem

(79,950 posts)
74. The only way the oil industry will do it is if the US taxpayer fully funds the oil production.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:20 PM
14 hrs ago

And pays the oil companies a bonus to take the gamble.

Trump seems hell bent on destroying the US and global economies.

paleotn

(21,615 posts)
30. Do you really think he would have listened? You can't tell him anything.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:14 PM
Sunday

The country is being run by a complete moron and minions who repeat everything the moron utters like it's fucking gospel.

See Rex Tillerson on Big Oil's take on Trump. A useful idiot on some occasions. A complete moron few want to associate with if they can help it.

Beartracks

(14,378 posts)
41. I guess I needed a "facetious emoji" for my post!
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:29 PM
Sunday

I completely agree with your response. They probably did tell him, but Trump likely thought that by going ahead with "breaking Venezuela" he could force their hand into "fixing it."

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paleotn

(21,615 posts)
43. Sorry for my misinterpretation. And big oil is most definitely NOT going to do that on their dime.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 07:12 PM
Sunday

"Sorry. Ain't touching it. You should have asked us BEFORE you broke it. We would have told you...ain't touching it."

Now, Donnie is stuck with a humanitarian disaster of monumental proportions, an incarcerated dictator who will probably walk, and no artificial decline in US gas prices before the 2026 elections. The price of lack of forethought.

Ohioboy

(3,880 posts)
78. Of course they told him
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 04:07 PM
11 hrs ago

They are actual businessmen / women. Trump just plays one on TV.

hatrack

(64,279 posts)
31. Yeah, his uncle taught at MIT, you know!!! He has the best brain, you know!!!
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:14 PM
Sunday
&list=RDZxPwVK_Z4YI&start_radio=1

PatSeg

(52,229 posts)
44. Poor, poor Donald
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 07:15 PM
Sunday

There actually were some brains in his family, but he seemed to be the family misfit and he knows it, which is probably why he overcompensates all the time.

rampartd

(3,876 posts)
12. incredible how 'concepts of a plan" don't survive contact with reality
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:12 PM
Sunday

if those oil companies weren't loading ships with equipment by new years this is all bullshit.

but the joke is on us. we get to pay for this infrastructure and security in venezuela and trump profits.

PJMcK

(24,777 posts)
3. I've thought Trump was an idiot since the late 1970s
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:00 PM
Sunday

It’s gratifying to see others catching up.

GiqueCee

(3,430 posts)
4. So did his mother...
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:06 PM
Sunday

... in fact, she said he was an idiot, and that she hoped he never got into politics because he'd be a disaster. Truer words have never been said, before or since.

GiqueCee

(3,430 posts)
82. I'd seen it here...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 07:08 PM
8 hrs ago

... a while back, under a photo of his mother speaking to an unidentified reporter with a mike.
Regardless of attribution, the statement has been proven to be true beyond the remotest shadow of a doubt.

ImmigrantsWGTJD

(11 posts)
34. The only thing he's good at is manipulation of others.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:19 PM
Sunday

Soon may it all come to a screeching halt. They say that dictatorships always end suddenly.

PJMcK

(24,777 posts)
40. All dictators end badly
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:29 PM
Sunday

Except for North Korea, they always collapse and the leader ends up dead or in exile. Look at history.

patphil

(8,734 posts)
48. My question exactly.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 07:34 PM
Sunday

The guy's been an idiot for several decades. Believe me, I know. I live about 60 miles north of NYC, and have seen this guy in action since the 1980's.
Nothing has changed since then. He was an idiot back then, and still is now, except over the years he's perfected idiocy.

Hope22

(4,485 posts)
6. Oopsie...a dead end alley!
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:08 PM
Sunday

Get a map people and quit wasting our money. This episode of your TV show is a dud!!!

wcmagumba

(5,670 posts)
9. I've always known that t-rump was a total idiot. He lucked into millions from his family and continues to be lucky...
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:10 PM
Sunday

not smart, except for grifting, he's good at that...

Bok_Tukalo

(4,526 posts)
11. Trump is a toddler with a loader gun that cannot be taken away
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:10 PM
Sunday

All that can done is distraction (Ballroom Kennedy Center) or manipulate him into firing the gun in your preferred direction.

Someone sold him on this operation and used oil as the reason to get him on board. Who knows the real reason?

Bok_Tukalo

(4,526 posts)
21. That's not happening.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:34 PM
Sunday

We are a politically bifurcated society. You cannot get a supermajority in the Senate to do anything of consequence.

returnee

(828 posts)
46. Didn't say it was happening.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 07:27 PM
Sunday

I said it would work. I’m not unaware of the current situation in Congress. However, in these times I decline to predict what is or isn’t possible.

Justice matters.

(9,432 posts)
54. The real reason is, he wanted a cut for himself like Putin does.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:14 PM
Sunday

Now let's see if, as I suspect he will, he will use taxpayers money (added to the national debt) to give to big oil for them to do his bidding.

He'll cut Social Security & Medicare if he can get away with it. It's not about the oil staying in tankers for a decade. He doesn't care.

Marie Marie

(10,906 posts)
15. He stated emphatically that the Oil Companies can't wait to get in there and get all that oil.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:18 PM
Sunday

And I know that Daddy would never lie to us.

OTOH - I wanted to see these greedy fucks go all in and Trump would provide them with all the military protection he can send. Then we get a new Democratic President and Congress who immediately withdraw all our troops, leaving them to use their obscene profits to protect themselves. Aaaah, a girl can dream....

Ocelot II

(129,189 posts)
23. Fortunately for everyone concerned (except Trump), the oil execs are smarter than he is,
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:35 PM
Sunday

and they know that getting involved in oil extraction and refining in Venezuela right now is a fool's errand - and they told him so.

ashredux

(2,878 posts)
18. He was born an idiot. It doesn't change during your life when you're born that way.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:25 PM
Sunday

However, he’s turned being an idiot into an art form

usonian

(23,644 posts)
24. That's cuz the moran thinks he knows everybody's business better than they do.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:37 PM
Sunday

Seems to have turned horribly jaundiced color.

Beartracks

(14,378 posts)
26. But it knocked Trump's Epstien files connection out of the headlines for a week...
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:56 PM
Sunday

... so he's got that going for him.

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sop

(17,507 posts)
32. It's a negotiating ploy.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:15 PM
Sunday

Oil companies will get U.S. taxpayers to subsidize the full cost of modernization. Then they'll demand all revenues from Venezuela's oil sales, in perpetuity, along with a zero tax rate on all future profits. The imbecile will cave, he can't afford to lose face now.

WestMichRad

(2,943 posts)
33. They didn't have a long range plan for after the abduction of Machado.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:19 PM
Sunday

Now, the country has no ruling government, no income, and cannot support themselves with basic food needs. It will descend into utter chaos, making Haiti’s anarchy look civil and orderly. Expect mass migration as people flee to neighboring countries. If the U.S. tries to send in forces to “run” the country, they’ll be bogged down for many years and welcomed by hostile well-armed gangs.

It’s gonna make Shrub’s Iraq fiasco look quaint, any everyone in northern South America will end up despising the U.S.

But hey, this administration will get to fuck over Cuba, so it’s a win, yes?

paleotn

(21,615 posts)
36. I foresee the Sunni Triangle with jungles.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:22 PM
Sunday

Iraq 2.0 with far better cover for the insurgents.

Justice matters.

(9,432 posts)
55. KKKaptain bonespurs will send his "suckers and losers" to die in Venezuela.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:22 PM
Sunday

And in Cuba, and in Greenland, and in Columbia, and in Mexico, and in Canada.

Anything to distract from the Epstein files.

paleotn

(21,615 posts)
35. Anyone with a function frontal cortex knew it all along....
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:20 PM
Sunday

Sometimes all you can do is just let lunatics do their thing. They won't listen to you anyway.

Speaking of oil execs...what did Rex Tillerson call him? A fucking moron? Yes, that about sums him up.

&t=1s

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,191 posts)
38. "Garbage": How Trump Used to Talk About Venezuelan Oil
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:24 PM
Sunday

The US is going to extreme lengths to control oil that Trump used to regularly disparage.

"Their oil is garbage. It’s horrible. The worst you can get. Tar. It’s like tar."

Read how Trump used to talk about Venezuelan oil.

Mother Jones (@motherjones.com) 2026-01-09T16:31:41.946Z

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/01/garbage-trump-disparage-venezuelan-oil-crude-maduro-tar-horrible-worst-oil/

Not long ago, President Donald Trump had a clear opinion of Venezuelan oil.

Throughout his 2024 presidential campaign, he called the country’s crude “horrible,” “tar,” “the dirtiest stuff you can imagine,” and the “worst oil probably anywhere in the world.” But, less than two years later, President Trump has framed his move to depose Nicolás Maduro in large part as a move to seize this “garbage” oil.

His reservations about the quality of the fossil fuels he plans to acquire have disappeared. Instead, the president has suggested he may be willing to send in more US troops to keep control of it and that he’s not “afraid of boots on the ground.” Gone, too, are Trump’s warnings that Venezuelan heavy crude will pollute the air in American communities when it’s refined stateside.

Trump’s disparaging remarks about Venezuelan oil were not a one-off. He made a version of the same argument at least five times between June 2023 and August 2024. The typical pitch went something like this: When I was president, we drilled top-tier American oil. Now we import tar from Venezuela and pollute our country in the process.

Here’s a longer version from a speech to North Carolina Republicans in June 2023:

When I left Venezuela was ready to collapse. We would have taken it over. We would have gotten all that oil. It would have been right next door. But now we’re buying oil from Venezuela. So we’re making a dictator very rich. Can you believe this? Nobody can believe this.

Their oil is garbage. It’s horrible. The worst you can get. Tar. It’s like tar. And to refine it you need special plants … We have liquid gold. The best, most beautiful stuff you can get. Liquid gold. Better than gold. Right under our feet … But with Venezuela, they put their oil and they refine it in Houston! So all those pollutants go right up in the air … So, we lose economically. And we also lose from an environmental standpoint. Because it is really dirty stuff. The dirtiest stuff you can imagine.


The bit has a typically Trumpian cognitive dissonance to it. If he’d been re-elected in 2020, America would have benefited greatly by taking control of Venezuela’s oil, he claimed. At the same time, Democrats were idiots for using such horrible, polluting oil.

Most of the oil in Venezuela is heavy tar that will require a great deal of investment to produce and refine. It is no wonder why US oil companies are not willing to make this investment

calimary

(89,068 posts)
49. I look forward to the day when nobody cares how he feels or what he says.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 07:35 PM
Sunday

I keep thinking about the aviation term “no longer a factor”. And boy do I look forward to the day that phrase starts applying to the donald, because he, too, is no longer a factor.

Trailrider1951

(3,565 posts)
72. That description is not really correct
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:56 PM
14 hrs ago

I've seen that "oil". At room temperature it is a solid waxy substance that looks like poop and smells as bad. I'm a retired geochemist who used to work at a multinational core testing laboratory in Houston. The sample came from PDVSA. That "oil" requires lots of treatment with heat, water, and surfactants to get it to move at all. Very expensive. Also, when you go to refine it into gasoline, kerosene, fuel oil and other useful things, you get very little of the lighter fractions with much wax and tar left over. Not much $$ in that. Those oil company execs know this. JMHO.

joho260

(45 posts)
76. and the tanker ships
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:29 PM
13 hrs ago

The oil tankers he confiscated are in such bad shape that they cannot dock at a US facility without significant repair. The Coast Guard is apparently trying to recruit personnel to go out to these boats to work on them. Once emptied, they would need to be demolished -- look up ship breaking; it's expensive, dangerous and dirty.

Justice matters.

(9,432 posts)
53. No wonder that despicable clown bankrupted casinos...
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:03 PM
Sunday

He doesn't know how to count other people's money. He thinks by threatening them they will shower him with bundles of cash (they will not make).

Norrrm

(4,058 posts)
56. Donald, why don't you force the oil companies to invest and take over the oil?
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 09:08 PM
Sunday

You have forced other companies to do your bidding.

II's called 'republican free market capitalism'.

aggiesal

(10,548 posts)
60. Don't you remember? ...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:42 AM
Yesterday

During his campaign, he told the Oil CEO's that if you give him $1B, he would clear regulations

Trump pressed oil executives to give $1 billion for his campaign, people in industry say
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/09/trump-asks-oil-executives-campaign-finance-00157131

alterfurz

(2,672 posts)
61. "He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot, but don't let that fool you...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 03:30 AM
Yesterday

...he really is an idiot." -- Groucho Marx

Martin68

(27,097 posts)
64. So Trump decided to blame Exxon for telling the truth about the uninvestibility of the Venezuelan oil industry.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:32 AM
16 hrs ago

freethought

(2,461 posts)
65. Oh gee, how silly of me.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:55 AM
16 hrs ago

I could have sworn that the state department is informing any American in Venezuela to leave the country immediately.

Shipwack

(3,004 posts)
66. He may look like an idiot, and sound like an idiot...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 11:07 AM
16 hrs ago

But don’t let that fool you.

He really is an idiot!

(Apologies to Mr. Marx).

FakeNoose

(40,248 posts)
80. What he's not telling us ....
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 04:35 PM
10 hrs ago

... is the real reason he went into Venezuela. He made a deal with Putin, because Pootie was losing his shirt in Venezuela and he had to get out. So Pootie told Chump to move in and take over V., and I'll make a deal with you on Ukraine.

Chump was never dealing with the oil barons, he just assumed they would jump at the chance to pump out V.'s oil.

Yes of course he's an idiot, but we already knew that.

Kid Berwyn

(23,071 posts)
79. Trump is a moron fixated by fabric swatches.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 04:10 PM
11 hrs ago
Trump, the billion-dollar loser — I was his ghostwriter and saw it happen

Charles Leerhson
Yahoo.com, May 9, 2019

EXCERPT...

I tend to see my time with him — the first part of it, anyway, before things started going bad in a hurry — as his “King Midas” period. I never said this to him; if I had, he probably would have thought I was suggesting he enter the muffler business. But there was a stretch of months when everything he touched turned into a deal. The banks seemed to accept the version of him depicted in his first book, “The Art of the Deal,” which we now know from his previous ghostwriter, Tony Schwartz, was entirely invented. They believed it over what they saw on his balance sheets or heard coming out of his mouth, and they never said no to his requests for more money. Often they came up with things he could say yes to before he could think of them himself. As a result, a failing real estate developer who had little idea of what he was doing and less interest in doing it once he’d held the all-important press conference wound up owning three New Jersey hotel-casinos, the Plaza Hotel, the Eastern Airlines Shuttle and a 281-foot yacht.

A real go-getter, right? But Trump’s portfolio did not jibe with what I saw each day — which to a surprisingly large extent was him looking at fabric swatches. Indeed, flipping through fabric swatches seemed at times to be his main occupation. Some days he would do it for hours, then take me in what he always called his “French military helicopter” to Atlantic City — where he looked at more fabric swatches or sometimes small samples of wood paneling. It was true that the carpets and drapes at his properties needed to be refreshed frequently, and the seats on the renamed Trump Shuttle required occasional reupholstering. But the main thing about fabric swatches was that they were within his comfort zone — whereas, for example, the management of hotels and airlines clearly wasn’t. One of his aides once told me that every room at the Plaza could be filled at the “rack rate” (list price) every night, and the revenue still wouldn’t cover the monthly payment of the loan he’d taken out to buy the place. In other words, he’d made a ridiculous deal. Neither he nor the banks had done the math beforehand. Or perhaps Trump knew it because someone had told him, but didn’t want to think about it. The one thing he is above-average at is compartmentalization.

Source:

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-the-billiondollar-loser-his-ghostwriter-recalls-the-king-midas-years-090000640.html
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