'Horrifying' leak reveals ICE 'stalkers' have access to Americans' cell phone data

[cbabe]

https://www.rawstory.com/ice-2674874634/

'Horrifying' leak reveals ICE 'stalkers' have access to Americans' cell phone data

Alexander Willis
January 12, 2026 8:47AM ET

A bombshell report from 404 Media revealed that Immigration and Customs Enforcement has acquired new technology that allows the agency to monitor entire city neighborhoods by tracking the movements of its residents without a warrant, sparking widespread fears over the Trump administration’s growing surveillance state.

“Horrifying for a lot of reasons but thinking about all the domestic abusers, stalkers, freaks, in and out of ICE, who will use this stuff to torment their victims is blood curdling,” wrote purported journalist Shane Proteus in a social media post on X Sunday night.

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[Lovie777]

1. Yep.....................

[Hellbound Hellhound]

2. To be fair, most of that information can be obtained by any private citizen.

I decided to muck about a bit to see how much of a footprint I had, and with a few properly placed inquiries through a proxy friend of mine, I was able to get a frankly alarming amount of information about myself despite having a fairly minimal online presence, down to my address, phone number as well as a general "heat map" of my movements. All through entirely legal inquiries at the right using only my real name.

Now imagine it done at scale through data brokers who make a living doing it.

[obamanut2012]

3. Private citizens cannot track you this way

[Hellbound Hellhound]

4. You GROSSLY underestimate how much information is already out there and how much can be FOIA'd to the right companies.

And if you're willing to spend a bit of money, you can get the full workover. IP address and ISP, activity times, services and utility usage depending on the provider, it's all out there floating around if you know how to ask the questions and where to look.

ETA: Look at Post 5 for a clue of one way among a great many to use the existing system legally.

FURTHER EDIT: And Post 6.

[Kid Berwyn]

17. You missed the point about wholesale government surveillance.

Government employs technologies and armies to surveil the public.

https://www.wired.com/story/the-wired-guide-to-protecting-yourself-from-government-surveillance/

That was unconstitutional until GW Bush and John Roberts made it OK.

As for the point:

Hannah Arendt: The Goal of Wholesale Surveillance



The goal of wholesale surveillance, as (Hannah) Arendt wrote in “The Origins of Totalitarianism,” is not, in the end, to discover crimes, “but to be on hand when the government decides to arrest a certain category of the population.” And because Americans’ emails, phone conversations, Web searches and geographical movements are recorded and stored in perpetuity in government databases, there will be more than enough “evidence” to seize us should the state deem it necessary. This information waits like a deadly virus inside government vaults to be turned against us. It does not matter how trivial or innocent that information is. In totalitarian states, justice, like truth, is irrelevant.

Chris Hedges, The Last Gasp of American Democracy

[Hellbound Hellhound]

18. Oh, I didn't miss the point; My counterpoint is that one doesn't even need the government to do it.

Any private individual has access if they have the right impetus, using entirely legal means. If they're willing to cross the lines to the illegal, no one is safe, because EVERYTHING is out there on the Net.

[Kid Berwyn]

19. That's great, but besides the original point.

So how do individual citizens get and apply the power the government “enjoys”?

Open government does not work for tyrants.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

23. I mean, there's obviously degrees of power.

The Government has the ability to actually act on and enforce their will through these services. However, the average private citizen can still make life a living hell for someone (illegally) if so desired. If they want to go to the extreme, a private citizen could use readily available information freely offered on the Net to find, stalk, and harm any number of other individuals anywhere in the country. And a group of private citizens could do the same.

The person I originally responded to made the statement that "Private citizens cannot track you in this way."

I contend that they can, as I did it to myself using a proxy as cover. The government can do it BETTER and can back it up with much more force, but private citizens can certainly access similar if differently obtained information for their own purposes.

[RVN VET71]

53. We are all naked to public scrutiny.

That was the whole point of Poindexter's Total Information Awareness program which was, supposedly, scotched because the public way back then (yes, I'm being ironic) did not want it to go forward. Poindexter said the point was to be able to find and follow terrorists. Funny, isn't it, how the f**king Trump Nazis called Renee Good a terrorist after they murdered her? Meaning the Government is not looking for actual terrorists so much as for people it can condemn as terrorists.

But, sadly, the end result is that all 333,000,000 Americans stand naked before the Government. And it was all part of a furtive movement by the mutated Party of Lincoln.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

54. 10/10, no notes. I agree with you fully. n/t

[markodochartaigh]

27. And, of course, there is the NSA data center in Utah

which mirrors the internet. The head of the NSA said when it was commissioned that they wouldn't use the information to go after people, only to connect people and provide information about people of interest. So, basically when they decide that they don't like someone they will have evidence against them.
And I think that we should understand by now that when the government says something against someone most people will believe it, all the more so because the government will have all of the information.

[yellow dahlia]

70. Thanks, Kid. n/t

[obamanut2012]

44. You are misisng my point: private citzens cannot track you this way

YOU cannot track a neighborhood's worth of phones. You literally can't, so I ahve no idea why you are arging with me, you are wrong.

I work in cycbersecurity every day, I know what I am talking about, so please quick being patronizing.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

47. Hey man, you got a personal stake tied up in this, I don't. I understand. "You're right" if that's what you need. n/t

[stillspkg]

57. Squirrell

The op is talking about something law (or "law&quot enforcement now has access to. I'm sure there are tech savvy souls who can easily figure it out. If it is a tool for law enforcement, it needs to be highly regulated.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

58. Oh, see, THAT is a drastically different animal and I agree entirely.

The problems shift exponentially from there, but your statement is utterly correct. I just take some degree of issue with categorical statements saying "X Can't do Y" when X is clearly capable of doing Y.

I agree with you about the regulation, and most government entities should have severe regulation to prevent abuse of power of this magnitude. Realistically, even if regulation happens, there will be an element that operates independently doing the same thing, and the government can outsource it to a commercial entity to continue surveillance and avoid the governmental regulation. At least, if I'm remembering my business law studies properly.

[ancianita]

74. FOIA's aren't dealt with quickly & are challenged for "standing," so the FOIA argument doesn't hold for average citizens

These are other ways -- not available to the public -- ICE tracks phones.

Purchasing Commercial Location Data:
ICE buys vast amounts of aggregated location data from commercial data brokers to sidestep the need for a warrant. This data, gathered from millions of phones and mobile apps, can reveal historical and current locations of individuals across the U.S.. Tools like PenLink's Webloc and Babel Street's Locate X are used to access and analyze this information.

Cell Site Simulators (Stingrays):
ICE uses devices often referred to as "Stingrays" (like the Stingray II and a newer model called Crossbow). These devices act as fake cell towers, tricking phones in the vicinity into connecting with them, which allows ICE to pinpoint a specific phone's location.

Spyware and Hacking Tools:
The agency has contracts with companies like Paragon Solutions for spyware that can hack into phones and access data, including encrypted messages and location data. A tool called Graphite reportedly can gain complete access to a phone just by sending a message to the number, without the user needing to click a link.

Social Media and Web Scraping:
Tools like PenLink's Tangles and ShadowDragon's SocialNet scrape information from social media and public websites. This data is used to build detailed profiles of targets, linking their posting history, location history, photos, and social connections.

Biometric and Identification Apps:
ICE agents in the field use apps like Mobile Fortify which can identify individuals by pointing a phone's camera at their face and scanning against federal and state databases.

Mobile Device Analytics:
ICE utilizes tools from companies such as Cellebrite and Paragon to analyze the contents of mobile devices, often after they have been seized.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

16. As a for instance...

You've left enough of a footprint on this website alone, accessible from a google search not a DU search, since your start that I could reliably look you up, find your cell phone number, possibly your address, definitely your place of work, your real name, possibly a picture.

I'm not saying I WILL and I certainly WON'T but in a five second google search I know enough about you to spook you with absolutely no effort. That's not a threat or anything, nothing of the sort; You insisted that "Private citizens can't track you this way". I'm telling you, yes they can.

EDIT FOR CLARITY: I mean technically it wasn't even a Google search. It was Bing. And Bing isn't exactly known for their comprehensive results.

[radical noodle]

37. I'm not disputing what you're saying

but my user name here is not connected to my real name at all, so how does that happen?

[Hellbound Hellhound]

38. Context search. Post history, details gleaned, timestamps, general statements, writing style, locations, profiles...

Stuff that nowadays a dedicated AI could do in a flash, but someone with ill intent could do with 20 minutes and another 4 hours on hold to various agencies.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

39. So here's PURELY an example.

Quick thirty second examination based purely on your DU name.

I found a very small area in which you at least used to live (may have moved since then.)

I've observed a cookbook you bought from a specific local group narrowing the area.

I've also found some of your medical history as well as details about a doctor that you were seeing in the local area and I THINK I've found her easier than I've found you, which means if I want to go illegal, I have enough information now. If I don't, I could keep digging.

That's purely from a thirty second Bing search, and there are AI designed to do FAR MORE than me far faster.

[radical noodle]

66. Wow!

Did you find my real name as well? Because I've never been able to find anything by googling (as so many suggest).

[obamanut2012]

45. Tell me how YOU track a neighborhood's worth of phones like teh OP states

Tell me, how do you do it? You don't.

lol

[Hellbound Hellhound]

48. With a lot of hard work and research.

Can I do it with the same efficiency? No. In fact I'd take a 99.99% efficiency hit over the government. But it could be done. I could track not only a neighborhood but an entire area code if I wanted to, it'd just increase the amount of time required, all using free, legal means.

You say "You can't." "You don't." I contest your absolute statement and declare that a private individual can and could using legal means, and could do it far faster using illegal means.

Your appeal to authority notwithstanding, I know it's possible. You only suspect it isn't.

[DBoon]

75. Do it

You have not detailed any specific methods you use. What specific Bing searches are involved?

Send me a text message when you have my cell number.

[Lithos]

28. It is fairly trivial

You just need to find a signal and have multiple points active in a neighborhood to triangulate on. Totally passive.

L-

[obamanut2012]

46. It really isn't

[Lithos]

62. They do it all the time

https://insights.daffodilsw.com/blog/how-iot-allows-precise-location-based-tracking

You can do it via Cell towers, or via WiFi sensors, or a combination of both.

Fairly trivial to put your own Cell towers into play - that is the basis of Stingray technology. I can pretty much guarantee that ICE is employing this technology.

See: https://www.nacdl.org/Document/CellSiteSimulatorPrimer

Also, WiFi sensors are also fairly easy to setup, though you will need more of them. I've seen plenty of demos where people were identified and tracked as they move through Stores.

L-

[reACTIONary]

67. The way this is done without a warrant is.....

.... to purchase the data from data aggregators that collect the data legally and are in the business of selling it. So, yes, private citizens, who can afford it, can track you in this way.

"ICE had purchased two products produced by the American software company Pen-Link"

Pen-Link is a software company composed of "private individuals", and I don't think Pen-Link would have any quams about selling their products to anyone with the money.

Here I an example of the cell phone "tracking" product, which does not track in real time, but instead provides historical data:

Webloc is a controversial cellphone location-tracking system used by law enforcement agencies, notably U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and the Texas Department of Public Safety. Developed by the Israeli company Cobwebs (which merged into PenLink in 2023), it aggregates vast amounts of commercial location data from hundreds of millions of mobile devices.

How Webloc Works

Webloc operates by purchasing location data that is generated by smartphone apps for advertising purposes. This data includes information from apps, GPS, and Wi-Fi signals and is linked to a mobile advertising ID (MAID). The system's key features include:

Mass Data Collection: It gathers an extensive database of location points from a multitude of apps without requiring direct access to a user's phone.

Geofencing: Users (e.g., law enforcement agents) can draw a virtual perimeter on a map and query the system for all devices present in that area during a specific time.

Movement Tracking: It monitors and traces the historical movements of individual phones over time to establish patterns, infer home addresses, workplaces, and social connections.

[ForgedCrank]

20. Just wait

until the masses figure out what they are doing with the Flock camera system.
Continuing to call them "license plate readers" is a disservice to all, and in a nefarious way. If people only knew, they would be outraged.

]https://banishbigbrother.com/flock-camera-map/

If you start reading on this subject, at first it almost seems as if it's one of those kook conspiracy theories. But it's not. Coupled with the application of AI, all of your public movements are being recorded, analyzed, and stored, and government (including law enforcement) has access to it all with a simple subscription. Even the bumper stickers on your car are being associated with your identity.

You can also listen to Louis Rossman (youtube) who is heavily involved in consumer rights and privacy issues. He's legit.

We are most certainly in uncharted waters at this point, and it all looks bad for the American citizen.

[littlemissmartypants]

40. One of those is less than a mile down the main road that runs in front of the farm. ...

It happens to be in front of the local loan shark's driveway. Recently, he disappeared. A couple of weeks ago there was a huge estate sale at the enormous brick house he used to live in. Made me wonder if he was the target.

Next time I go that way, I'm going to check and see if it's still there.

[ForgedCrank]

41. The guy

I mentioned (Louis Rossman) and a large group are tracking and mapping the spread of this scourge.
In the case anyone is interested:

https://banishbigbrother.com/flock-camera-map/

[littlemissmartypants]

52. I tried to add it. But it's more complicated than I have bandwidth for at the moment. ...

I'll try harder later. Thanks for sharing this, ForgedCrank. ❤️

[MorbidButterflyTat]

71. Oooooh!

That sounds like a good plot for a novel!

[littlemissmartypants]

72. It really does! What a great idea, MBT! ❤️

[dalton99a]

5. Kick

ICE has quietly bought access to a powerful surveillance system that can monitor entire neighborhoods by sweeping up cellphone location data and tracking people’s movements over time, according to documents obtained by 404 Media.

The system, built by Penlink, consists of two tools called Webloc and Tangles. Webloc lets agents draw virtual perimeters around blocks or cities, identify phones present, and trace where devices travel over time, including likely homes and workplaces — all without a warrant. Tangles adds social media monitoring, including tracking and analysis of online activity.

Civil liberties groups warn the system enables mass dragnet surveillance to help ICE’s deportation crackdown. ICE argues commercially sourced data is exempt from warrant requirements, a claim critics say exploits legal loopholes and poses serious risks to privacy, free speech, and immigrant communities.

[katmondoo]

7. I do not have a cell phone

And never will!!

[CountAllVotes]

43. I don't have one either!

Who the hell wants one? Not me, that's for sure!

[CousinIT]

6. It's called 'Stingray'

From the AI thingy (fact-check suggested!):

The term "Stingray" used by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) refers to a type of surveillance technology, often associated with various tools.

### Overview of Stingray Technology

- **Function**: Stingrays are devices used to mimic cell towers, allowing them to intercept and track mobile phone communications. They can capture location data and even call content.

- **Combination with Other Technologies**: Allegations and reports indicate that Stingrays may work in conjunction with other systems such as **Webloc** and **Tangles**, both of which are tools used for digital surveillance and data collection.

- **Webloc**: Typically refers to software that helps track and manage web traffic or links related to surveillance efforts.

- **Tangles**: Can refer to techniques used in the analysis of connected data, often to uncover relationships and patterns that emerge in various datasets.

### Usage by ICE

ICE and other law enforcement agencies utilize such technologies to monitor communications for criminal investigations and immigration enforcement. The combination of these tools enhances the ability to track individuals in real time.

These technologies raise significant concerns regarding privacy, civil liberties, and the ethical implications of surveillance practices.

[orangecrush]

21. Stingray is ancient tech

They are way, way beyond that now.

[CousinIT]

24. Still in use though, it seems - article from June 2025. I remember from the No Kings protest...people were..

....talking about how to block this crap:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/06/future-android-phones-could-warn-you-about-data-stealing-fake-cell-towers/

But yeah, ICE are probably using more advanced surveillance tech in addition to or instead of.

Another article from September 2025 that says ICE is using Stingray technology: https://www.forbes.com/sites/the-wiretap/2025/09/09/how-ice-is-using-fake-cell-towers-to-spy-on-peoples-phones/

. . .

But the case shows that, despite having been criticized by civil rights groups for using Stingrays during the last Trump administration, ICE continues to use the technology. Earlier this year, new media publication Straight Arrow News said it had analysed “mobile network anomalies” around a Washington state protest against ICE raids that were consistent with Stingray use.

Forbes found contract records showing ICE purchased nearly $1 million worth of “cell site simulator vehicles” in May this year, indicating it’s taking the surveillance tool fully mobile. That was part of a contract first signed under the Biden administration in 2024.

ICE also has an active contract worth up to $4.4 million with the original Stingray manufacturer, Harris Corporation, for unspecified “equipment to determine the location of targeted mobile handsets.” That deal was also signed during the Biden years.

[orangecrush]

32. There are apps in Google Play store

That purportedly can detect Stingray.

(I wouldn't bet my ass on them, though )

Which is why they are no doubt using more advanced tech.

[woodsprite]

8. So would it work to "go invisible" if you turn your phone totally off and put it in an RFID wallet?

I was thinking like if someone went to or was in the vicinity of a protest and didn't want to leave a footprint. I know you can always use a clean burner phone if you need one, just wondering if this could work to allow you to keep your phone on you.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

9. Burners are currently the best option, and the cheapest for their efficacy.

RFID wallets are great too, don't get me wrong, but if you want absolute security, leave your cell at home. Get a burner, and whether you use it or not, chuck it at the end of the use you bought it for. If your personal cell phone is on you, it's a liability. From what I hear, RFID wallets are hit or miss as far as some of these new data-tracking techs.

[orangecrush]

22. Spot on.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

25. Cheers mate, thanks for the nod.

I was going to go into the nitty about using gloves to hold the burner if you're REALLY worried about getting IDed, also to never let the phone hit your face, but that's a bit afield and getting into an almost concerning level of paranoia for something like a protest.

[orangecrush]

30. True again

Being a ham radio guy, I have this understanding.

Any time you use a cellphone or even a computer, you are BROADCASTING and should have ZERO expectations of privacy

[Hellbound Hellhound]

31. Solid. I've always wanted to get into HAM but money's been the limiting factor.

And yeah, the world's gone so digital that no one's private any more. Unless you unplug and disconnect entirely, which ironically is the best way to be safe nowadays; Finding anonymity in real life by absence, whereas the Net used to hold anonymity paramount.

[orangecrush]

33. Look up "Baofeng" ham radio

You can operate on 2 meters for about $20.

Plus, the little bugger can monitor most government and public service frequencies, but you aren't allowed to transmit on them.

Great budget energency/survival gear for the prepared DUer.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

35. No shit? Man, I just took a look and they've changed a LOT since I looked last!

I mean, there's been some stuff happening around me that might warrant having a government radio in the background so it may be worth popping a quick fifty bucks on it whenever I have a spare 50 dollars again (If I'm gonna spring for emergency gear I'm not gonna take the bottom of the barrel. XD I'll chuck a few bucks extra to make sure it works.) Thanks for the heads up man!

EDIT: Edit was just to clarify not twenty dollars but fifty for the model I'm seeing.

[orangecrush]

36. My pleasure

[orangecrush]

26. I saw a video

Where a criminal used a burner.

They didn't have a name but they tracked some data the phone uses to the point of purchase, and the stores surveillance camera had him buying it.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

29. Agreed, with cameras everywhere, the only surefire way to not get tracked via phone is to not have a phone.

And if you MUST have a phone, the burner must be destroyed to the point where they can't even ID it. Normally melting or burning after a massive electric shock.

[erronis]

49. A good RFID bag (or Faraday bag) would help a lot.

One other thing is to make sure you block the signals from your phone well before you arrive at the ultimate destination. If someone detects you a block or so from an event it is easy to infer that you are going there.

[progressoid]

68. Perhaps you could "go invisible" temporarily.

But the amount of information out there about you is staggering. Your cell usage not-with-standing.

[jfz9580m]

10. Scary

On the + side personally, I have adapted by becoming more stoic since April of last year. I started returning to normal around the time of the Trump shooting and Biden’s speech in 2024 (not connected obviously - just memory markers) after an extended period of mental upheaval starting in late 2011 and worsening in early 2012. Hideous job where big tech (specifically the defense contracting and data mining parasitic giant that is Google, which pioneered this garbage surveillance Panopticon that the kleptocratic, dim-witted fascists of Palantir etc are now also enthusiastically building) contamination/coup of academic science and medicine showed up in my life for the first time*.

I was and am fond of my mentor at the time-he was a bit of a pain in the neck unlike my mentor. But out of respect for him I tried to pretend to buy into needless shrinking of the militarized and shallow pop type. I should have been firm and said “no..i just hate junk tech and its sleazy blah centrist politics”. But i was too confounded by the sudden transition from my old work spaces to one I hated. God I hate Google. They were handing out geofence warrants to law enforcement up to last year incidentally.

I had/have no mental issues per se beyond this:
https://theconversation.com/how-neoliberalism-is-damaging-your-mental-health-90565
But somehow oddly this realization of my worst fears after that period has had an oddly calming effect.

I also self shrank a bit following stuff like this to understand how my brain works:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-24068-x

So I am feeling better personally and coping well despite the hellish state of the world. Its weirder to be alone in hell. I am starting the next phase of recovery focusing on attention/distraitness.



(*: I trash big tech all the time, but i do make limited exceptions for any scientists personally known to the few scientists or doctors I trust completely. It is not entirely inconceivable that there could exist even at Google, someone I ..consider..a person whom a friend or colleague, could conceivably almost not entirely not be acquainted with. Though still extremely unlikely.)

[Kid Berwyn]

11. Your tax dollars at work.

“The best rope money can buy.”

[OldBaldy1701E]

12. Well, when you integrate something into every aspect of your life without a clear understanding of how it all works...

This is what you get.

Unless you are an experienced programmer or hacker, there are reams of information about you online. REAMS.

You can't stop it without major expense and technical help.

This is because we let those corporate bastards 'willy-nilly' integrate the internet into every aspect of of their operations within a few years of the technology being introduced, and therefore it became apart of your operations, because you cannot interact with most of them without doing it through the internet. Once that connection is made, are you really sure that they are playing fair? How do you confirm this? What information do they get when you try to ask them a question on the web? Do you know? Are you sure?

Face it, we do not know.

Also, using 'social media' to point this out is ironically hysterical.

...wrote purported journalist Shane Proteus in a social media post on X Sunday night.

[cbabe]

15. California launches one-click system to delete personal data from hundreds of brokers

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/california-launches-one-click-system-to-delete-personal-data-from-hundreds-of-brokers-010626.html

California launches one-click system to delete personal data from hundreds of brokers

James R. Hood, Founder and Editor
Jan. 6, 2026

A new California law lets residents demand deletion of their personal data from hundreds of data brokers with a single request

The system replaces a cumbersome process that required consumers to contact each broker individually

Privacy advocates say the change could significantly reduce the mass collection and resale of personal information

… more …

[erronis]

50. Good idea. We'll see how well it really works.

[Melon]

13. Law enforcement has been using portable cell phone tower capture devices...stingray...since the 90's

They can see all cell phones in a given area and do this regularly. It’s one of the ways they had names during the January 6th insurrection.

[Felicita]

69. Can law enforcement "see" your phone if your location services is turned off?

Just wondering. I keep mine off except when I get lost and need GPS, which is not very often

[Melon]

76. I think if your phone is on...which is using cell service

Then you can be pinpointed. Your cell strength is just triangulated between 3 towers.

If your phone is on, you can be seen. If you are in a modern car, it likely has gps.

License plates are read constantly at toll roads and some intersections or by driving cops and towing companies.

You don’t read about serial killers anymore, not because there are less whack jobs than in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s. It’s largely because they are caught early.

[RedWhiteBlueIsRacist]

14. Having a cell phone is like having the Government in your pocket, and not just the U.S. gov!

[orangecrush]

34. Word

[Hellbound Hellhound]

42. THAT was the name of the show I was thinking of, "Person of Interest".

Lots of good information in that show about the surveillance state; Not accurate or factual, but also not entirely fiction either.

[Torchlight]

51. The consistent misuse of information has a foul smell attached to it

The odor of actions without consequence and behavior without oversight.

[2na fisherman]

55. Intrusive vs Exclusive Tech

Yes we all know Big Brother is watching since we are pretty much forced to interact with big data via the internet. And this intrusion on our privacy is now seen as the cost of doing business. Most financial transactions are conducted via phone/internet connections and merchants and banks are connected in that vital link. And even your home's utilities are connected in that way too. Fewer transactions are made in cash and merchants often have a hard time handling cash so it seems like cash may one day be made obsolete and everyone will be forced to make digital transactions. But what if you can be excluded from doing business by a malign government? I'm not very tech savvy, but notice what the Iranian regime has done in the wake of protests. Reports say they "turned off" the internet and cell phones. And everyone is blinded. So if such a thing can happen there, when does it happen here? And might a denial of service be specifically targeted at individuals and groups in the US which the Trump regime deems terrorists? I recall some quasi-biblical reference to The Mark Of The Beast which says those which didn't bear the mark would be banned from trading unless they swore allegiance to the beast. So everyone must submit to being "licensed" by the government to access the internet. Paranoia runs deep.

[barbtries]

56. that has to be unconstitutional, right?

we're supposed the right to privacy? yeah?

[Hellbound Hellhound]

59. You'd be surprised how much of their lives people sign away to cell phone companies in their contracts. n/t

[-misanthroptimist]

60. Faraday bags

I am not recommending this particular product. I link there only because there is a decent explanation of what a Faraday bag does.

https://www.empshield.com/whats-a-faraday-bag-and-why-should-you-care/

[hunter]

61. I somehow survived half a century without a cell phone.

It wouldn't cause me any anguish to get rid of mine and it doesn't cause me any anguish when I forget to take it with me.

I'm pretty much a Luddite that way. I have a no-contract flip phone that I mostly use as a phone. Sometimes I send and receive texts on it which is something my home phone can't do.

DU is my only social media and I block all the rest, including bluesky. It's not because I'm paranoid, it's just all too much noise for me. I quit Amazon when Bezos got too chummy with the-one-who-shall-not-be-named.

I don't see any internet or television advertising. My truck is old and doesn't have any "smart" features.

All those things probably give me a rather suspicious electronic signature should the government ever decides to kick down the doors of dissidents like me.

[Joinfortmill]

63. NAZIS

[GoodRaisin]

64. A VPN will protect your data through encryption, although not your movement

within the cell tower.

[Evolve Dammit]

65. Elon???