Did Senate Democrats cave in?

[lees1975]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-strikes-deal-to-avert-partial-shutdown/ar-AA1Vhxyx?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=697c08126c7b41c384f35865f602405d&ei=21

Noem needs to go as part of any deal, and so does ICE. Anything less is compromise and we are done doing that with the GOP, or so I thought. But I guess old school still wins out.

Too bad. Major disappointment.

[vapor2]

1. You are right, there should be NO compromise

[Bread and Circuses]

2. Per Usual.

[flying rabbit]

3. We will see

It culled DHS from the herd, and therefore less distractions. Ball is in the Dem's court.

[gab13by13]

4. I am no fan of Schumer,

but segregating out DHS funding is a good 1st step.

I think this is a good start.

[usonian]

5. Reminder to senate Democrats. "Compromise is Good" ... Neville Chamberlain.

Kick the can down the road.

[Groundhawg]

6. ICE ain't going anywhere.

[Doodley]

7. And what happened to healthcare subsidies? Or doesn't that matter anymore?

[Doodley]

8. Noem going, a dealbreaker? How does that change anything? Stephen Miller and Trump still call the shots and the lies.

[stopdiggin]

9. I think it is a mistake to frame this as a defeat for Democrats

My take is the Ds finally got enough votes together - in concert with a very slim number of, (for once!, and oh so rare!) disaffected Rs - to actually have some ability to effect ... And they used it - with some deftness - to what advantage they judged could be wrought.

There obviously some different opinions out there - but I think I would tag this as a fairly rare win - and in so doing, pretty decent bit of statecraft on the part of Senate Democrats.

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[W_HAMILTON]

10. Bless your heart if you think Noem and ICE are going anywhere while Republicans are in power.

Sadly, ICE won't be going anywhere and neither will Noem unless Trump tires of her the way he did Bovino.

Instead of blaming Democrats for something completely out of their control, this should be a teaching moment for why Republicans should never be given control of our government again. Even though you think people would have already learned this after the first Trump administration...

[tritsofme]

11. Exactly, this is a delusional attack on Democrats, nothing more.