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Miles Archer

(23,328 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 02:20 PM Mar 4

"Yeah, just keep killing, killing them until they're until they're gone. I mean, absolutely."

Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA) expressed full-throated support for Israel's plan to kill anyone who is appointed by the Iranian regime to lead the nation.

A joint U.S.-Israeli military operation decapitated Iran's leadership structure over the weekend, and Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz warned that "any leader appointed by the Iranian terror regime" would become "an unequivocal target for elimination," and the Pennsylvania Democrat told "CNN News Central" that he wholeheartedly agreed.

"Yeah, just keep killing, killing them until they're until they're gone," Fetterman said. "I mean, absolutely. I saw that, I've read that, that they're going to target who they ever elect to be their next leader and kill them – absolutely, I fully support it. So that's what's entirely appropriate now, they have to decide, are we going to continue for, choose now peace, and, or now we're going to try to destroy Israel? They really don't have those capabilities at this point. It's just empty rhetoric because we all know that Iran isn't able to really project the kinds of damage."

https://www.rawstory.com/john-fetterman-israel-iran/

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"Yeah, just keep killing, killing them until they're until they're gone. I mean, absolutely." (Original Post) Miles Archer Mar 4 OP
Has he been tested for rabies lately, he's positively frothing at the mouth Blues Heron Mar 4 #1
Fetterman isn't well. sop Mar 4 #2
He is mentally ill. Trueblue1968 Mar 4 #22
Cognitive Deficiency Club Bmoboy Mar 4 #3
Lindsay Graham JBTaurus83 Mar 4 #4
"...full-throated support..." MorbidButterflyTat Mar 4 #5
"full throated" UpInArms Mar 4 #30
A throat full Traildogbob Mar 4 #51
His throat is full of his voice. Blame Keats. Ilikepurple Mar 4 #31
Maybe a body part JBTaurus83 Mar 4 #33
He's becoming less and less inhibited. Ilsa Mar 4 #6
He dresses like he's going to Walmart on Black Friday PatSeg Mar 4 #29
ITA. I think it is disrespectful to the Ilsa Mar 4 #49
I don't understand it either PatSeg Mar 5 #56
I remember visiting the Capitol on my own around Ilsa Mar 5 #59
Yes, I think the institution PatSeg Mar 5 #62
Fine dining places, supper clubs etc. moniss Mar 4 #52
The quintessential Ugly American PatSeg Mar 5 #58
Yes I believe that for weddings and especially funerals moniss Mar 5 #63
I don't dine out anymore either PatSeg Mar 5 #64
I do miss very much when "going out" meant moniss Mar 5 #65
Over the years, I began to look for opportunities PatSeg Mar 5 #66
My Senator is not right in the head. I am ashamed to have voted for him debm55 Mar 4 #7
The other choice was Mehmet Oz. No shame in voiting "D". JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 4 #8
No I meant to say I should have primaried him with C.Lamb. I would never vote for Oz. debm55 Mar 4 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Mar 5 #55
Can the 25th Amendment apply to senators? Wednesdays Mar 4 #9
You know, with a six year term at risk, there should be Ilsa Mar 4 #50
Same here, debm55. Not only did my wife and I vote for him, we also made significant contributions to his campaign. Borogove Mar 4 #35
Senator Whip-poor-will Mar 4 #41
In other words, he has no problem with the killing of women. And children. Ferrets are Cool Mar 4 #10
I can't think of another politician that has disappointed me so much. Coventina Mar 4 #11
It's like he's trying to become the MTG of the senate. Maru Kitteh Mar 4 #12
Why should Americans die for the bloodthirsty monster Netanyahu? dalton99a Mar 4 #14
Killing, killing, killing until they are all gone. Irish_Dem Mar 4 #15
That's not even human Autumn Mar 4 #17
Not even a proper sentence. ramblings... Amaryllis Mar 4 #26
No it isn't MustLoveBeagles Mar 4 #32
Yes we all know people who have had strokes and don't turn into psychopaths. Irish_Dem Mar 4 #40
What a fucking psycho.. He should grab a gun ang get his ass over to Israel. Autumn Mar 4 #16
If he feels that strongly about it he should MustLoveBeagles Mar 4 #34
If it's a bluff why kill them lame54 Mar 4 #18
Is the regime utterly clueless about the magnitude of the IRGC/Basij military, industrial, economic conglomerate??? pat_k Mar 4 #19
Open depravity beyond shame Ponietz Mar 4 #20
Replace sofa w/ Israel and Vance w/ Fetterman.... chowder66 Mar 4 #21
He needs a primary challenger when he is up for re-election. nt City Lights Mar 4 #23
It seems we're always stuck with the democrat like that Tribetime Mar 4 #24
Don't forget Manchin AllyCat Mar 5 #53
When are we going to be rid of these psychopaths? Whyisthisstillclose Mar 4 #25
The words of a psychopath. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 4 #27
I no longer think the stroke caused this MustLoveBeagles Mar 4 #37
Yeah, I'm sad to say I was completely duped by this jerkoff. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 4 #45
Don't be embarrassed MustLoveBeagles Mar 4 #47
WTH?! I'm 76, And Regret Only ONE Vote In My Life. GUESS...... ColoringFool Mar 4 #28
That guy is such a huge disappointment. NNadir Mar 4 #36
Yes he is MustLoveBeagles Mar 4 #38
That boy ain't right... Talitha Mar 4 #39
John Letterman, who are you? Blue Owl Mar 4 #42
Interesting that as massive as he is, he never served in the military n/t TexasBushwhacker Mar 4 #43
He sounds as crazy as Hogsbreath and Trump. The underestimation of Iran's capabilities is endangering all of us. flashman13 Mar 4 #44
Good point. Miles Archer Mar 4 #46
Underestimation put five battleships on the bottom of Pearl Harbor. Four more were disabled. flashman13 Mar 4 #48
What a kooky Israel supporter David__77 Mar 5 #54
Then there won't be anyone left to surrender. Just fighters determined to avenge this atrocity Arazi Mar 5 #57
Operation PHOENIX must be hiring. Kid Berwyn Mar 5 #60
He's way beyond showing his true colors... La Coliniere Mar 5 #61

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,527 posts)
5. "...full-throated support..."
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 02:27 PM
Mar 4

OMG I hate that stupid expression!!

What's his throat full of? One blogger uses a stupid expression then everyone uses it.

UpInArms

(55,001 posts)
30. "full throated"
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:58 PM
Mar 4

i think that was first used to describe the howling of wolves or baying of dogs in the hunt

as when they hold their head back and use their "full throat"

(edited to continue to clarify the correct use of the term)

Ilikepurple

(687 posts)
31. His throat is full of his voice. Blame Keats.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:00 PM
Mar 4

I don’t even listen or read any bloggers and am fully aware of this metaphor. I’ve always thought of birds or frogs using volumes of air to push their calls, but I’m no biologist. Keats, frog, or bird, Fetterman does not have my full-throated support on this issue.

Ilsa

(64,386 posts)
6. He's becoming less and less inhibited.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 02:28 PM
Mar 4

He dresses like what my son sleeps in. I hope his clothes are clean, at least. I wonder if his hygiene has been kept up?

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
29. He dresses like he's going to Walmart on Black Friday
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:56 PM
Mar 4

I think it is disrespectful for a sitting senator to dress like that in the capitol. I'm all for comfort, but it seems a large percentage of Americans these days are absolute slobs.

Ilsa

(64,386 posts)
49. ITA. I think it is disrespectful to the
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 10:50 PM
Mar 4

seriousness and elevation of the office. The pay and benefits are enough that he should be financially able to dress better. I have never thought a dress code was required, but I think Congress should establish a list of apparel not appropriate for work. I just don't understand why why Fett fights it.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
56. I don't understand it either
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 10:54 AM
Mar 5

Serving in the U.S. Senate is a profound privilege and should be treated as such. You wouldn't think any senator would have to be told what appropriate attire is for such a position.

I remember reading about the first time a young Joe Biden entered the senate chamber. He was in total awe. He took serving as senator as a very solemn responsibility.

Ilsa

(64,386 posts)
59. I remember visiting the Capitol on my own around
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 11:26 AM
Mar 5

1989, give or take a year. I was in awe of the House and Senate chambers. I didn't let partisan ideals interfere with my feelings during the tour.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
62. Yes, I think the institution
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 12:04 PM
Mar 5

goes far beyond partisan politics. So much extraordinary history, it is understandable that you would be in awe.

moniss

(9,058 posts)
52. Fine dining places, supper clubs etc.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 11:24 PM
Mar 4

around here have seen tons of customers coming in dressed in shorts, tank tops and sandals. If you go to funerals and weddings now you see all kinds of people in jeans and t-shirts. It's disgusting. At the dining places along with the shorts and sandals comes the loud obnoxious conversation and laughter. The waitresses also tell me they are "handsy" and cheap on the tip if they tip at all. So if you go for a nice night out on a Saturday evening your chance is pretty high of sharing the fine dining establishment with "bros" in shorts, t-shirts and sandals with beards and backward baseball hats slamming drinks and being loud. To them every place is like a sports bar.

A lot of people today have no sense of manners for others around them. They were poorly parented.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
58. The quintessential Ugly American
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 11:15 AM
Mar 5

Loud, rude, and slovenly. I couldn't believe the first time I saw someone go to church or a wedding dressed in jeans and t-shirts.

Certain situations require dressing up more. It doesn't have to be as restrictive and stilted as the 1950s of course. I accept that we have become more informal and relaxed which in many instances is fine. I don't want to go back to that era of my youth, but a little effort to be well groomed and respectful is not too much to ask.

The backward baseball caps on grown men drive me crazy. If you're not a catcher or a ten year old kid, lose the stupid hat and behave like an adult.

moniss

(9,058 posts)
63. Yes I believe that for weddings and especially funerals
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 01:16 PM
Mar 5

that you show respect by how you come dressed. A funeral parlor visitation is a little different and I will be more relaxed in my feeling about that. But in a funeral setting this is the most serious and solemn moment and I believe people should reflect that in how they dress.

I don't mind if people come to a fine dining establishment in slacks, collared shirt and jacket with dress shoes but I'm not into the jeans, t-shirt, jacket and tennis shoes thing. If they want to sit at the country club bar or restaurant after a round of golf dressed like that then fine. But not at fine dining. Also too many people think of Texas Road House or some other chain steak house as fine dining but they're not. Casual for those places is fine. In fact one would probably be overdressed really if you went to that sort of place in a suit and tie.

I don't go to those places because I can't take the noise and I'm not into the "conveyor" belt approach to food and customers. The places I prefer are the ones where I have actual chefs and cooks rather than "preparers and assemblers". I don't dine out anymore but I used to seek out and go to places where I could ask for a dish prepared a certain way that wasn't "on the menu" per se but I knew the kitchen had everything they needed. I was more than content to wait for however long it took and to pay the price. I tipped very, very well and the staff and ownership/management would come to introduce themselves and we would get to know each other.

I did this even at more casual dining like Sicilian restaurants etc. It was wonderful to have relationships like this with restaurants and I always got a great table, great service and great food. Chefs and cooks would come from the kitchen and sit and converse about how I liked various things prepared and we would chat about recipes etc.

It made "going out" a real occasion for me and the staff at the restaurants knew this would be an enjoyable customer to have and I knew it was mutual.

Some restaurants rebuffed me and didn't want this kind of customer but that's fine too. I'm not just another number and I want restaurants, chefs, cooks and owners/management that are comfortable with customers that are unique and are really into the whole experience. I'm not the 30-40 minute and gone conveyor belt type as so many restaurants desire to "program" themselves" for maximum "turn" of the house.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
64. I don't dine out anymore either
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 03:15 PM
Mar 5

There are times when a person can wear jeans and look very presentable - clean and neat with a nice collared shirt (not a baggy t-shirt with often vulgar sayings on it) and perhaps a blazer or a sweater.

That said, I can accept change and even embrace it many times, but sloppy and grimy looking should be kept in your own house or backyard. I've seen outfits in stores or restaurants that I wouldn't wear to check the mail.

Geez, am I turning into that cranky old lady? I don't know, but I felt much the same way when I was younger.

moniss

(9,058 posts)
65. I do miss very much when "going out" meant
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 07:04 PM
Mar 5

preparing for days ahead with making sure everything was cleaned and pressed. Shoes shined, hair trimmed and maybe a new tie. A nice tasteful dress watch and tie bar. Sometimes the crisp white shirt may be one with cufflinks. Car well cleaned and shined up too.

In my grandfathers time going to where a suit was worn also meant making sure to get your hat to the hat shop so it could be checked and made to look as best possible.

Such a funny thing to remember now but as nice as everybody looked almost everyone also smoked and the cigarette smoke was all around.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
66. Over the years, I began to look for opportunities
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 07:33 PM
Mar 5

to dress up a bit occasionally. It really can affect the way you carry yourself or behave and I tried to prolong that feeling. When I had a one job where I dressed in business attire, I actually looked forward to going to work and shopping for clothes was a pleasant pastime. Of course, I loved coming home and kicking off those shoes and changing into something more comfortable as well.

I remember reading about how actors in period piece movies or TV shows said they changed considerably when they wore their costumes. It helped them become their character and it affected their movements and posture.

When I was a kid, we loved getting dressed up and going out to eat. It wasn't terribly often, but it was a pleasant change of pace.

I also remember the cigarette smoke though. Almost everyone in our world smoked. I'm sure our clothes reeked of cigarette smoke, but we were so used to it, we didn't notice. We wore a lot of wool in the winter, so it would have especially been stinky.

P.S. I miss those men's hats. They were so classy, unlike these ridiculous and tacky backward baseball caps.

Response to debm55 (Reply #13)

Ilsa

(64,386 posts)
50. You know, with a six year term at risk, there should be
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 10:52 PM
Mar 4

something besides impeachment for removal on medical grounds.

Borogove

(623 posts)
35. Same here, debm55. Not only did my wife and I vote for him, we also made significant contributions to his campaign.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:05 PM
Mar 4

We want our money back.

Maru Kitteh

(31,773 posts)
12. It's like he's trying to become the MTG of the senate.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 03:04 PM
Mar 4

What a failure of critical thinking he has become. Too bad he’s not avoiding cameras anymore.

dalton99a

(94,218 posts)
14. Why should Americans die for the bloodthirsty monster Netanyahu?
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 03:22 PM
Mar 4

And why should Americans have to pay for his wanton obliteration of Gaza?



MustLoveBeagles

(16,460 posts)
32. No it isn't
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:02 PM
Mar 4

Something is wrong with him. I no longer think it's just the stroke. My husband has had two minor ones and he's changed but not to this degree.

pat_k

(13,393 posts)
19. Is the regime utterly clueless about the magnitude of the IRGC/Basij military, industrial, economic conglomerate???
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:35 PM
Mar 4
I am not hearing any one of the idiots cheerleading the insanity acknowledging the uniquely formidable infrastructure.

With the limited reading I've done, it seems pretty clear that the IRGC and supporting volunteer Basij army constitute a massive force that is deeply embedded in every part of the economy and civil society. It also seems pretty clear that the IRGC wields vast oppressive power that is effectively independent of the regime leadership.

The revolutionary guard corp is estimated to be 100,000 to 200,00O people strong, with power centers throughout the economy.

And regarding the Basij, there are more indepth sources, but wikipedia provides a decent summary:

From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basij

is a paramilitary volunteer militia ...

Subgroupings of the Basij include the

Primary Schools Basij Cadets [Basij-e Danesh-Amouzi], (also reportedly called Omidan or Hopes),[55]
Middle schools basij, Pouyandegan or Seekers,[55]
High school Basij, Pishgaman or Standard Bearers,[55]
the Students Basij Cadets [Basij-e Daneshjouyi],
the University Basij Cadets,
the Public Service Basij (Basij-e Edarii), and
the Tribal Basij.[33]

Estimates of the number of Basij vary, with its leadership giving higher figures than outside commentators. Official estimates are as high as 23.8 million.[57] A scholar of the Basij, Saeid Golkar, estimates their total membership at approximately one million, and their security forces in the tens of thousands.[19] As of 2020 there were reportedly between 40,000[19] and 54,000 Basij bases (Paygha-e Basij) around Iran.[58]

Economic power
According to the US Treasury, the Basij have a multi-billion-dollar "covert network" of businesses.[19] According to Saeid Golkar, the influence of the Basij in the Iranian economy, has grown to extend to "every sector", from "construction and real estate to the stock market".[54] In 1996, six organizations were put under the control of the Basij Cooperative Foundation (BCF)

The Basijis Housing Institution (Moassesseh-ye Tamin-e Maskan-e Basijian).
The Basijis Medical Institution (Moassesseh-ye Tamin-e darman-e Basijian).
The Basijis No-Interest Loan Institute (Moassesseh-ye Gharz al-Hassaneh-ye Basijian).
The Basijis Consumer-Goods Provision Institution (Moassesseh-ye Tamin-e Aghlam-e Masrafi-ye Basijian).
The Cultural Artistic Institute of the Warriors of Islam (Moassesseh-ye Farhangi Honari-ye Razmandegan-e Eslam).
The Scientific and Pedagogic Services Institute of the Fighters (Moassesseh-ye Khadamat-e Elmi va Amouzeshi-ye Razmandegan).[59][54]
As the government privatized companies under president Hashemi Rafsanjani, The Basij Cooperative Foundation became the Basij's main mechanism for "purchasing entire industries on the cheap"


There is also the Quds Force
From Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quds_Force

It specializes in unconventional warfare and military intelligence operations. The U.S. Army's General Stanley McChrystal describes the Quds Force as an organization analogous to a combination of the CIA and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) in the United States.[10] Responsible for extraterritorial operations,[11] the Quds Force supports non-state actors in many countries, including Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the Houthi movement, and Shia militias in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.[11]


Fetterman's (and others) "we'll just keep killing them til they are gone" is beyond stupid.

Killing ayatollahs doesn't touch the vast infrastructure. The IRGC / Basij is like a cancer that has metastasized to every organ of the body. I fear that the idiots in charge will be perfectly happy to kill the host and destroy the lives of every Iranian in their pursuit of "victory." And clearly, MBC and Netanyahu would be thrilled with such a result.


Tribetime

(7,145 posts)
24. It seems we're always stuck with the democrat like that
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:48 PM
Mar 4

It was Sinema before now.It's him so we need to have a majority plus one or two

BlueTsunami2018

(4,992 posts)
27. The words of a psychopath.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:50 PM
Mar 4

What difference is there between what he’s saying and what Whisky Pete is saying?

These are the words you’d hear from lunatics and sickos.

Kill! Kill! Kill!!!

What the fuck are we doing?

BlueTsunami2018

(4,992 posts)
45. Yeah, I'm sad to say I was completely duped by this jerkoff.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:28 PM
Mar 4

That’s not something that happens very often.

I’m embarrassed.

MustLoveBeagles

(16,460 posts)
47. Don't be embarrassed
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:34 PM
Mar 4

He fooled a lot of people including me. The current Whitehouse occupant fooled me at one time as well.

ColoringFool

(732 posts)
28. WTH?! I'm 76, And Regret Only ONE Vote In My Life. GUESS......
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:56 PM
Mar 4

The United States and citizens thereof will bitterly rue the day.

BITTERLY. In, as they say, blood and treasure.

Those whom Trump would destroy, he first makes poor.

MustLoveBeagles

(16,460 posts)
38. Yes he is
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:12 PM
Mar 4

It's gone beyond that for me. I think he's a psychopath or at the very least a sociopath. I think it would be best if he got out of politics.

flashman13

(2,410 posts)
44. He sounds as crazy as Hogsbreath and Trump. The underestimation of Iran's capabilities is endangering all of us.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:25 PM
Mar 4

Miles Archer

(23,328 posts)
46. Good point.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:29 PM
Mar 4

Trump's going to go out there and pound his flabby chest, "OH...you THINK I hit you hard? Well, I'm going to hit you harder than ANYONE IN THE HISTORY of being hit hard was hit hard, SO HARD that..."

And, Iran's gonna play their cards a little closer to the vest.

flashman13

(2,410 posts)
48. Underestimation put five battleships on the bottom of Pearl Harbor. Four more were disabled.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:37 PM
Mar 4

Underestimation cost the Japanese the Battle of Midway.

Hubris is very dangerous.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
57. Then there won't be anyone left to surrender. Just fighters determined to avenge this atrocity
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 10:57 AM
Mar 5

Kid Berwyn

(24,433 posts)
60. Operation PHOENIX must be hiring.
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 11:51 AM
Mar 5
"Yeah, just keep killing, killing them until they're until they're gone," Fetterman said. "I mean, absolutely.

La Coliniere

(1,938 posts)
61. He's way beyond showing his true colors...
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 11:58 AM
Mar 5

I feel sorry for those in PA who were duped by this fool.

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