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The Revolution

(893 posts)
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 03:03 PM 3 hrs ago

Will single issue voters (Israel) doom us in 2028?

While shoveling snow yesterday, I was listening to the Pod Save America interview with Josh Shapiro. I've heard a lot of positive buzz about this guy, so I expected a fair amount of positive comments. Reading through them through, they were overwhelmingly negative, with most refering to Israel in one form or another. Some others declared him to be an unacceptable "corporate" Democrat.

For a long time, I remember Democrats being frustrated by voters who would vote against their own interests, and instead focus on a single issue like abortion or guns ("what's the matter with Kansas?" ).

But it seems like we might be developing a similar problem on our side, in relation to Israel. It's fairly clear that is at least part of the reason we ended up with Trump 2.0.

Link to the interview:



Sample of comments:
If it were to somehow end up being Shapiro vs Tucker Carlson as the candidates and Tucker is able to credibly stake out the anti-Israel position, Democrats will (rightfully) lose in an epic landslide


If Democrats push this guy or Newsom (another centrist Zionist-bought, pro-oligarchs NPC) I'm staying home. I'm done with the "harm reduction narrative". I held my nose in 2016, 2020, 2024 and votedd anyways... AND THEY STILL LOST, TWICE!!. No more, I'm done.


If Tucker Carlson wins the Republican Primary - which I find likely at this point - and he opposes funding Israel and the Democrats nominate someone who will not stop funding Israel, I will vote for a Republican for President for the first time in my 51 years. I have faith in my fellow Democrats not to be so daft as to nominate someone who will not stop funding Israel. I hope my faith proves justified.


Maybe some of these are trolls or Russian bots, but there's an awful lot of it.
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Will single issue voters (Israel) doom us in 2028? (Original Post) The Revolution 3 hrs ago OP
Did anyone ever ask if single issue pro-choice voters doomed Dems in X year? RockRaven 3 hrs ago #1
If you suspect this stuff is coming from Russian bots, displacedvermoter 3 hrs ago #2
I mean that the vast majority The Revolution 2 hrs ago #7
Israel could not convince moonscape 2 hrs ago #3
Yeah MustLoveBeagles 2 hrs ago #6
So the argument is D_Master81 2 hrs ago #4
If voters enjoy being lied to Progressive dog 2 hrs ago #5
so I was done with Shapiro when I heard him throwing VP Harris under the bus. ecstatic 2 hrs ago #8

RockRaven

(19,207 posts)
1. Did anyone ever ask if single issue pro-choice voters doomed Dems in X year?
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 03:08 PM
3 hrs ago

There sure were a lot of people who said they would stay home rather than vote for a forced-gestation Democrat.

displacedvermoter

(4,297 posts)
2. If you suspect this stuff is coming from Russian bots,
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 03:10 PM
3 hrs ago

I don't know why it is worth sharing? Part of the beauty of bots, as I understand them, is to make a guy in his underwear in Macedonia or Montenegro appear to be hundreds of concerned voters, so maybe that is why there is "an awful lot of it"?

The Revolution

(893 posts)
7. I mean that the vast majority
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 03:44 PM
2 hrs ago

Of people commenting would have to be bots, which seems unlikely, but who knows.

moonscape

(5,695 posts)
3. Israel could not convince
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 03:16 PM
2 hrs ago

Democrats to blow up the Middle East, but needed a useful Republican idiot, and we get blamed? Do I have that right?

D_Master81

(2,513 posts)
4. So the argument is
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 03:19 PM
2 hrs ago

People will be so mad at what is going on in the Middle East that if Dems were to nominate a Jewish candidate some voters would hold him responsible and vote for the party that spent 4 years in Netenyahu’s back pocket? I just don’t see that being a wide spread problem.

Progressive dog

(7,598 posts)
5. If voters enjoy being lied to
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 03:24 PM
2 hrs ago

then Trump is on all sides of every question. Trump is the only voice of the Republican party.
No one is forced to listen to lies on social media.

ecstatic

(35,056 posts)
8. so I was done with Shapiro when I heard him throwing VP Harris under the bus.
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 03:51 PM
2 hrs ago
A number of forces on the left questioned Josh Shapiro’s ties to Israel during Kamala Harris’ rushed running mate selection process in 2024. In his new memoir out next week, the Pennsylvania governor says the former vice president and her vetting team were among them.

So much so, Shapiro writes in a copy obtained by CNN, that Dana Remus, a former White House counsel under President Joe Biden who became a senior member of Harris’ VP vetting team, asked him, “Have you ever been an agent of the Israeli government?”

“Was she kidding?” Shapiro writes. “I told her how offensive the question was.”

“‘Well, we have to ask,’” Remus, a former White House counsel under President Joe Biden, said, according to his book. “‘We just wanted to check.’ She added: ‘Have you ever communicated with an undercover agent of Israel?’”


So before I learned about this, I really liked Shapiro. I think he is incredibly articulate with a high emotional IQ as well. But after his comments, I'm done with him. Harris is a smart woman with a background in law. If her team asked Shapiro questions about his ties with Israel, they had damned good reason to.

Instead of playing games and acting offended, just answer the question honestly and move on. An effective team has to be able to speak frankly with each other.

But instead, it looks like he filibustered and tried to cancel Harris behind the scenes.

Shapiro will only get my vote if he's the democratic nominee.
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