It's not going to get any better...

[kentuck]

It is depressing but it is the reality. It is the ultimate naivete to think otherwise.

So long as this present regime is in power, the worse it will be for all of America. And, in fact, the rest of the world.

Nothing, absolutely nothing, good can come from the seeds that have been sown. The bluster, the violence, the lies, the threats, the corruption. What would you expect tomorrow to look like?

Until we can get rid of this pestilence, we will continue to live in the shadows hoping something or someone will save us.

Republicans and Democrats are Americans. But one of them is in the deepest denial of their lives. And they demand that everyone else go under with them.

It's a sad place they have taken America.

[Moostache]

1. Partition should be on the table, alongside disarming the nuclear stockpiles

This ends one way and one way only - violence. Either violence from ICE and GOP thugs beating the populace into timid submission or violence in opposition to the heavily armed dude-bros and Y'all-Queda operatives. The real problem is the military has shown precious little appetite for declining to execute illegal orders such as illegal bombings or attacks on marooned/damaged boats and passengers, illegal wars of aggression at the behest of their superiors for the benefit of Israeli PM, or worst of all, failure to remove war criminals from the chain of command up to and including the President and Secretary of DEFENSE (for the pompous and illegal proclamations of "no quarter" and "bombing civilian infrastructure" threats.

This ends with us on our collective knees, waiting for the rest of the world to simply cut off the Western Hemisphere and put us into economic oblivion and eternal debts that cannot be repaid, or in a Civil War II where the power of the USA military is retaken from the Mall Cops and COD-Dude Bros currently stomping around like toddlers in need of a spanking and a nap with no bottle.

I vote for the later option, but once we are done, I want FULL war crimes trials and convictions and sentences carried out on the guilty that have led us here, starting with Trump and followed immediately by the entire line of his defenders from Miller to Hegseth to the rest of the cabinet and the media enablers that will be easy to find - they will be the ones trying to blow life into Trump's corpse through their surgically attached mouths on his mushroom cap penis.

[Fiendish Thingy]

6. Was Minneapolis beaten into timid submission?

Your black & white thinking re: violence or submission lacks connection with reality on the ground as well as imagination for future possibilities.

[OLDMDDEM]

2. Sadly, I have to agree with you.

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. Can you name one good thing, one breakthrough or success that came *without* significant struggle?

Yes, the present sucks, and the future is uncertain (to claim it is certain, that is the ultimate naïveté).

This Saturday is the next No Kings March, and millions will come together to reject defeatist Doomerism, and joyfully embrace hope for the future and express their determination to resist this regime, survive and thrive.

Until we can get rid of this pestilence, we will continue to live in the shadows hoping something or someone will save us.

That is passive surrender.

Millions will refuse to “live in the shadows” this Saturday- they know no one is coming to save them, they must be their own saviours.

[leftstreet]

8. What did the last No Kings accomplish?

Other than Trump tearing down the WH east wing a few days later?

Solidarity momentum isn't sustainable without perceived results

[MustLoveBeagles]

9. I see what you're saying

But it's better than doing nothing.

[leftstreet]

10. No doubt

I just think people should prepare to be disappointed over turnout. And also gird one's loins for Trump gloating over it

Argh

[Walleye]

27. He will gloat and brag no matter what, he is not connected to reality, and neither are his followers

[kentuck]

13. I agree.

It is best to keep people aware of what's happening?

At the same time, we should realize that nothing is going to get better so long as this regime has control.

[EdmondDantes_]

16. You mean like winning elections which we keep doing?

It took years of war with millions dead in the fighting and concentration camps to rid the world of Hitler. We have elections in just over 6 months, plus Trump isn't exactly in the peak of health no matter what he claims. He's gone no later than January 20th 2029.

Did the LGBT community give up because they didn't win right away? Did black people give up because the Civil War didn't stop racism? Did women shrug and stop working to get the vote? Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

But we have a lot of work to do that isn't Trump. Go volunteer with a cause that matters to you where you can see the results. Animal shelters, Special Olympics, food rescue, homeless shelters. There's a million good causes out there looking for help. See the good because yeah looking at the ugly gets depressing

[BattleRow]

17. Old,but true,it is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness.

To the religious Dominionists,

"And by their fruits,ye shall know them."

[EdmondDantes_]

24. I like that candle saying

Being proactive about a problem is usually best

[NJCher]

36. besides being the best route to take

It gives one a sense of self efficacy. Those high in self-efficacy have better, healthier lifestyle habits and therefore healthier lives.

There is plenty of research on it: just search self-efficacy health.

There is also research that shows those with negative outlooks are--how shall I say this--caught up in a negative thinking mode that only served them well back in caveman days. It's unnecessary now, but they still do it.

[wnylib]

19. The No Kings protests create and sustain solidarity.

Each protest brings more people together to network and work on solutions.

Tim Snyder, expert on totalitarian regimes and author of On Tyranny, has endorsed this week's No Kings protests as a means of resistance. I'll take his expertise over your defeatism.

[Grim Chieftain]

22. We need more than massive protests every few months

Trump and his fetid enablers never let up, neither should we. We need protests every damn day.

[NJCher]

37. so get out and organize one

All you have to do is go out on the streets with a sign. People will join you. That's what I did.

[Grim Chieftain]

44. How do you know I haven't?

[Grim Chieftain]

50. For the record

I am a retired professor who is well connected in our community and actively recruit voters to our cause.. My husband was a legislative recruiter for the Democratic Party, a former city commissioner and former mayor in our town. We have attended primaries where we both gave speeches in favor of our candidates. We've phone banked and gone door to door. We have organized rallies in our town and have done everything possible to promote our candidates.

Your comments are a bit over the top, to say the least.

[Fiendish Thingy]

38. Yeah, I guess you're right

I guess MLKjr should have stayed home and watched Jeopardy.

[leftstreet]

41. LOL n/t

[KPN]

20. Where does Kentuck say anything like "passive surrender". You are putting words into his mouth. You seem to me

to be overly critical for some reason I can't fully understand. What's up with that?

[questionseverything]

28. I'm tired of people from other countries telling Americans who live here how to feel

[BannonsLiver]

34. You're not the only one who is tired of it.

Especially when they are smug, arrogant, condescending know it alls who are actually utterly clueless about which the speak and with no skin in the game whatsoever.

[Abolishinist]

59. So how does this compare with posters who've

taken it upon themselves to determine which TV shows fellow DU'ers are allowed to watch, and who gets labeled a “closeted Republican” for the crime of watching a weekly TV show?

That seems like a slightly more ambitious form of gatekeeping.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221075691#post23

[Fiendish Thingy]

39. I quoted them directly

Until we can get rid of this pestilence, we will continue to live in the shadows hoping something or someone will save us.

That is the very definition of passive surrender.

We the people are the salvation we seek.

[leftstreet]

42. "Until. We. Can. Get. Rid. Of

...this pestilence"

The OP suggests that we can. Seems hopeful to me

[kentuck]

55. "So long as this present regime is in power, the worse it will be for all of America."

I'm hopefully depressed.

[leftstreet]

56. But you started a great OP

leading to lots of discussion!

[kentuck]

57. I try to be optimistic...

...but I do not see anything getting better until Trump is gone. He is toxic. He is poison to the soul of this nation. It's difficult not to be depressed.

[SamuelTheThird]

4. It's worse than that

trump and co can disappear and we will still have amoral corporations, predatory techbros, and a large chunk of the population addicted to self-destructive stupidity

[OldBaldy1701E]

18. Bingo. (n/t)

[Walleye]

29. And it will be a long time before the rest of the world forgives us, if ever

[popsdenver]

40. Perfectly said STT

There is no way, "the classical sunshine, lollipop, and rainbow" thinking this time around, is gonna get us out of this one..................

All that has happened, didn't just arrive yesterday folks.......some of us here have been screaming our heads off since Nov 1980 when committing TREASON, HWBush installed Reagan in the White House......or when Cheney/Rumsfeld utilized TREASON to install WBush in the White House, etc etc etc
THAT and countless other times, a line should have been drawn in the sand, and the dems should have stood strong......and fought against this New Republican Party CABAL........elections in 2000, 2004, 2016, 2024 were just a few.

The Repubs just kept inching forward, a step at a time, gaining momentum, and NOW they are at a full gallop.
Sorry to be so pessimistic, but many of us were squashed for DARING to even offer constructive criticism......
.
The majority of Americans were walking down the jungle path, for over 45+ years.////swatting at mosquitoes and oblivious to the herd of charging elephants.......(Pun Intended)

Many here are old, and will be gone by the time this CABAL fully rolls out its entire program of top 1% and Corporate Tyranny on our beloved Citizens, Democracy, Constitution......and I seriously wonder if all those driving this catastrophe have Children or Grand Children who will be the population that suffers the most from their Malice and GREED.

I rolled up behind an extremely expensive car at a stoplight not long ago. I was amazed to see a bumper sticker!!!! on such an outrageously expensive car....... The Bumper sticker read: GOT MINE, FUCK YOU..............................................
I thought that THAT epitomizes all that is our current state of our Country.........very depressing........

From my opinion, our party has offered little resistance, except for a precious few that are always in the news, screaming their heads off. Bernie, AOC, Newsome, and select others. There are over 200 Dem House and Senate members that we NEVER hear from, including the ones here in Colorado.......Namely, Bennett, Hickenlooper, and DeGette who are happy just to cruise along......to say nothing of our term limited Governor who is in many ways a PRO CORPORATE DINO........

Just my observations and opinions folks.........

[maxsolomon]

5. The fever has to break.

At some point, he'll be the lamest duck that ever existed. All but his hardest core MAGAts will deny they every supported him.

But that won't change much about his pathologies, and it won't happen until 2027. Late 2027.

[bluestarone]

7. I have to 100% agree with you. Hell, nobody can answer just one question. That is

What happens if after polls close and counting begins ICE or anybody else enter the polling place and takes all ballots out of the building? Probably in states we are wanting to win.

[Irish_Dem]

11. Even those in denial are going to have to face reality at some point.

Their happy talk will not carry the day.

[kentuck]

15. Only then will we begin to recover.

And who knows how long that might take?

[Irish_Dem]

25. The problem is that one third of the population loves what Trump is doing.

They are not in denial at all.
They know exactly what he is doing and approve of it.

Things will have to get very bad for them to change their mind.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

12. "It's not going to get any better..." tRump is a sick, cruel, narcissistic rapist who enjoys hurting people.

He lies, steals, and cheats - that's how he "wins". He loves the sadistic "you're fired" feeling. He LIES and the press reports that as a "new" presidential proclamation, but it's just another lie. NO, It's not going to get any better.

[Walleye]

30. You are right the media has to quit repeating his lies as if they are true

Until the press begins to do their job again we really are screwed

[dalton99a]

14. Yep. Trump will get worse, not better. And no Republican will dare to "pivot" until he dies

[Katinfl]

21. And that is perhaps the saddest part.

That republicans do not dare to defy him by any means. Sure, there are a few here and there on some issues, but that’s all. Until, and unless, they grow a spine, we are status quo I am afraid.

[calimary]

26. When does a coward grow a spine?

Republicans have turned themselves into an amoeba festival.

[RussBLib]

23. I can think of a good thing Trump has wrought...

…his bullshit has spawned a strong countermeasure from regular citizens and Dem politicians. Dems are winning races coast-to-coast that might have gone GOP if Trump was not such an egomaniacal imbecile. Trump has awakened lots of Dems and independents from their slumber.

I try to look on the bright side now and then.

https://russblib.blogspot.com/?m=1

[Walleye]

32. Definitely need solidarity with our fellow Democrats

Hoping more of our fellow Americans come along

[Mysterian]

31. The USA is a failed state because of fundamental flaws in our original constitution

Giving two senators to every state, without regard for population, and the electoral college are the primary flaws. The wealthy, using the evil republican party, have exploited these weaknesses to gain total power. Can the USA fix itself? It will only be a temporary fix until the flaws in our constitution are corrected.

[Walleye]

33. We managed to deal with that before Trump

[Mysterian]

45. Times have changed, haven't they?

Great observation.

[Exp]

35. Things are about to GET WORSE! According to finance experts. nt

[stage left]

43. I have to believe it's going to get better

otherwise, I can't go on. My good friends and I are going to the No Kings Rallies in Greenville, SC. They start at the top of Main Street, extend to City Hall, and end at South Main in one of Greenville's stellar city parks, located on the Reedy River. We're all women in our late seventies. We can't lead a revolution. Or even trail along behind one. But we can do this. We can call our representatives. We can support good candidates such as Annie Andrews, who is running against Lindsey Graham for senate. We can show up. We can speak out. We can keep hope alive.

[c-rational]

48. Well said.

[haele]

46. Just sober reality. Now we need to figure a way to take away the shovel

That the wealthy Wanna-be Oligarchs, ultra-Religious fear-mongers, or Libertarian assholes have handed a significant number of low level bullies and otherwise petulant, alienated American citizens to keep digging themselves and everyone/everything else this country down to Hell with them.
Going to be tough Because the only way to do is is to both hit the streets (along with communications sources and voting booths) -
and try to rehabilitate the deluded a few at a time.

And while I might be able to do the former, doing the latter is going to take a lot of painful effort and patience, and swallowing a whole lot of hurting wounds and injustice for a larger cause.

[Joinfortmill]

47. RESIST!

[Ferrets are Cool]

51. America's new mantra...Bomb um till they love us.

Or, the bumper sticker version, Bombs for Peace .

[proud patriot]

52. I've really been struggling with Sadness

I'll survive with friends and joining likeminded souls this Sat.

I know Saturday will charge my batteries.

[Easterncedar]

53. To despair is to believe you know the future

We don't. Right now we must believe in and fight for the future we want to be part of building. That means we hope. Be a tortoise. Persevere. It will take longer than we want it to, but we shall overcome.

[kentuck]

54. We should be hopeful and persevere but we should also be realistic...

Nothing is going to get better with Donald Trump in charge and until we can change that reality, hope is all we have. Just my opinion.

[Easterncedar]

58. I don't disagree. But - I am reading "Defiance" by Loubna Mrie

She was a young Syrian who woke to the horrors of the Assad regime as the Arab Spring movement was born. She kept thinking regime change would be a perfectly good thing that would be accomplished in months. She witnesses horrors, defies her family and joins the revolutionaries, discovers the violent and criminal element there, barely escapes to Turkey and becomes an independent journalist at 21. Her father has her mother killed to punish her.

She persists.

I think we need to persist, too.

[Skittles]

60. November feels so very, VERY far away