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gab13by13

(32,211 posts)
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:03 PM 6 hrs ago

Is The Stock Market That Stupid Or Is It Just A Con Game

Crude oil dropped today because Krasnov said something positive about a peace plan, are they that stupid?

There are no meaningful negotiations going on, the fake negotiations are a smoke screen before Kransov puts boots on the ground, as soon as Friday.

We can capture Kharg Island and several other islands nearby with minor casualties, but then what, how do we stay there?

Iran may have a lot of boobie traps, may decide to blow the island up instead of letting the US capture it?

A lot of US planes and troops are headed to the ME so Krasnov is either doing this to intimidate Iran or boots on the ground is coming this weekend.

The war in Iran has only just begun.

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ruet

(10,273 posts)
2. "We can capture Kharg Island and several other islands nearby with minor casualties"
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:16 PM
6 hrs ago

Kharg is about 25 miles off the coast of Iran. Ukraine has shown that the range of FPV drones can be pushed to 30-40 miles. Then you have the Shahed and missile threat. US forces will not have nearly the same AA coverage that our bases and major cities in the region provide. I wouldn't make the mistake of believing this will be done with "minor casualties".

If you have the stomach for it, take a look at the CombatFootage subreddit and search for "drone". Drone warfare is something that, IMO, we are not prepared for.

gab13by13

(32,211 posts)
13. I believe our military is that good that we can capture Kharg Island with few casualties,
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:47 PM
5 hrs ago

keeping control of it is another story.

What is freaking sad is that Krasnov wants to do this for a photo op, Lyndsey Graham mentioned Iwo Jima for a reason, Krasnov wants the video of US troops planting the American flag on Kharg Island.

belpejic

(796 posts)
3. It's both
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:18 PM
6 hrs ago

At this point it is so far removed from fundamentals that I think it is basically gambling for all but the few who control lots of capital and lightning-fast trading systems.

JPK

(970 posts)
4. We can bomb them into the stone age
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:21 PM
6 hrs ago

We can send thousands of troops to fight a country of 90 million. And in the end, they will still be a country and they will still own the oil.
Israel wants us to invade. Saudi's want us to invade. Where are their troops? Where are their ships? Where are their planes? They all want us to do the dirty work, spend the money, lose the people and they will reap the benefits.

Fuck them all. They have all been a pain in our ass for 130 years.

gab13by13

(32,211 posts)
14. Yes, you are spot on,
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:48 PM
5 hrs ago

I believe only one country surrendered because it was bombed - Japan.

Wonder Why

(6,946 posts)
5. Neither. It all depends on company profits, not government policies, civil rights, human decency or other things.
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:23 PM
6 hrs ago

We have enough oil - whether we choose to pump at any cost (human, climate, or otherwise)

Wars are profitable for companies.

Just think of all the businesses, defense to mortuaries, that will need to grow as the war goes on. Remember, one of the biggest, if not the biggest, thing that brought us out of the depression was WW2 - even years before we were involved. And the fifties were good for them because of the pent-up need to keep consumers satisfied.

Traders look for short-term profit - what will happen to the price of oil tomorrow but investors look for long-term profit - what will happen afterwards.

Buy low. Sell high. If times are awful, that's the time to buy. People make money on disasters. If the disaster is permanent, does it matter that you lost everything? If it is not, you can make a bundle.

There are no morals, ethics, honesty, or good intentions in the market.

gab13by13

(32,211 posts)
9. With Krasnov we need to think outside the block,
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:38 PM
5 hrs ago

there are reports (not confirmed) but I can believe them, that Saudi Arabia and the UAE paid Krasnov a lot of money to go to war with Iran.

2naSalit

(102,622 posts)
6. Always has been a con game...
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:32 PM
6 hrs ago

If it were not, we little people would have more involvement and understanding of what it does.

Sogo

(7,186 posts)
8. "Iran may have a lot of boobie traps"
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:38 PM
5 hrs ago

That has been my thought, especially since it's been reported that he was sending Marines to Kharg.

gab13by13

(32,211 posts)
10. Also, Kharg Island if full of oil tanks
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:42 PM
5 hrs ago

and other flammable chemical tanks. If we capture Kharg Island Iran is dead economically, they may have rigged all of those tanks to explode once our troops take the island.

Johonny

(26,119 posts)
12. They can hit the Island from 2000 km away
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:44 PM
5 hrs ago

With swarms of 20K drones.

They want US troops close and easy to hit...

Johonny

(26,119 posts)
11. The TACO trade has paid off all last year
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:43 PM
5 hrs ago

So alot of traders treating this like the tariffs even though the ramifications appear to be much slower to churn through the system. But it's Trump's weakness that's keeping markets up.

LogDog75

(1,289 posts)
15. The stock market is controlled by investment companies and billionaires
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 02:02 PM
5 hrs ago

They're deciding what the market does rather than the marketplace and it's always for their benefit.

Individual investors have little to no influence on the stock market.

walkingman

(10,808 posts)
16. It is a rigged game but it is one of the only games available to try and keep up with inflation.
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 02:09 PM
5 hrs ago

When I saw the SEC approve CRYPTO that confirmed my suspicions that the corruption runs deep and sadly Congress is willfully embracing the issue.

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