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orangecrush

(30,917 posts)
Wed May 6, 2026, 04:43 PM 22 hrs ago

Are we sitting ducks for a Hantavirus epidemic? (POLL)

I just read that a case has now been found in Switzerland.

With the present freak show responsible for the nations health, are we seeing a rerun of the first Trump death march?


76 votes, 3 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Yes it has begun
20 (26%)
No this is different
16 (21%)
Stock up on Ivermectin and anal flashlights
0 (0%)
Yes they want us dead and believe they can run everything with AI
4 (5%)
Say your pwayers, Wabbit
2 (3%)
Stocking up on masks and sanitizer already
1 (1%)
Yes he is literally the Antichrist
7 (9%)
Fetal position
0 (0%)
Don't worry be happy
1 (1%)
Too early to tell
25 (33%)
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Are we sitting ducks for a Hantavirus epidemic? (POLL) (Original Post) orangecrush 22 hrs ago OP
Let the Games Begin! ZDU 22 hrs ago #1
God help us orangecrush 22 hrs ago #2
Last night my Maine Coon cat woke me up by laying on his back beside my bed & tossing a dead mouse from paw to paw. FSogol 21 hrs ago #3
Good Kitty! orangecrush 21 hrs ago #4
My dogs caught a gopher two nights ago -then one buried it womanofthehills 18 hrs ago #12
Yuck! We have to lock out cat door. Our house would be full of raccoons and possums. n/t FSogol 18 hrs ago #14
I'm not getting on any cruise ships & I have 2 cats irisblue 21 hrs ago #5
Good luck! orangecrush 21 hrs ago #6
It is most likely edhopper 5 hrs ago #22
I Thought It Was Spread By Rodents ProfessorGAC 20 hrs ago #7
Check this out orangecrush 18 hrs ago #8
Son Of A Gun! ProfessorGAC 18 hrs ago #9
Not at all. orangecrush 18 hrs ago #10
So it was brought on the ship edhopper 5 hrs ago #23
Thanks, here we go again. appalachiablue 4 hrs ago #27
You betcha! orangecrush 3 hrs ago #31
Ten yrs ago, a young college girl a town over in NM died of Hanta virus womanofthehills 18 hrs ago #11
Very sad orangecrush 16 hrs ago #15
Not necessarily hantavirus. Arthur_Frain 18 hrs ago #13
That's how Gene Hackman's wife died. He died from other causes. LeftInTX 15 hrs ago #16
Check this out orangecrush 7 hrs ago #19
Yes, but this hantavirus is also endemic to Argentina. LeftInTX 6 hrs ago #21
Thanks orangecrush 3 hrs ago #32
No cruise ships for me, I can't believe they had it happen on the cruise ship MV Hondius Beringia 15 hrs ago #17
Who the hell takes a 35 day cruise? Initech 15 hrs ago #18
I can't even afford a 3 hour tour! orangecrush 7 hrs ago #20
I'm pretty sure it's one of those eco-cruises. Ship only has capacity for 196 people. LeftInTX 5 hrs ago #25
Thanks orangecrush 3 hrs ago #29
So it was brought on board edhopper 5 hrs ago #24
East to answer Traildogbob 5 hrs ago #26
Not nearly as transmissable as Covid Sympthsical 4 hrs ago #28
I seem to remember hearing something similar orangecrush 3 hrs ago #30
Because cruises are human sardine cans Sympthsical 3 hrs ago #33
Not as easy to transmit and not transmissible aren't the same EdmondDantes_ 3 hrs ago #34

FSogol

(47,655 posts)
3. Last night my Maine Coon cat woke me up by laying on his back beside my bed & tossing a dead mouse from paw to paw.
Wed May 6, 2026, 04:54 PM
21 hrs ago

When he got bored he chomped the entire mouse down, leaving no trace.
I think my house is protected.

womanofthehills

(11,013 posts)
12. My dogs caught a gopher two nights ago -then one buried it
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:49 PM
18 hrs ago

When I woke up in the morning, of course they were chewing on the dead gopher on their bed next to mine. First thing I thought of was plague flees - but oh well! They have a doggie door out to a huge run so they made a midnight trip as I was sleeping.

FSogol

(47,655 posts)
14. Yuck! We have to lock out cat door. Our house would be full of raccoons and possums. n/t
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:53 PM
18 hrs ago

ProfessorGAC

(77,160 posts)
7. I Thought It Was Spread By Rodents
Wed May 6, 2026, 06:43 PM
20 hrs ago

Can't envision how they would be as pernicious as a virus shared person to person just by our breathing.
Seems like a radically different situation.
Has there been evidence of P2P transmission. I don't recall hearing about that, but doesn't mean anything more than I may have missed it

orangecrush

(30,917 posts)
8. Check this out
Wed May 6, 2026, 07:56 PM
18 hrs ago

Yes, as of May 2026, the World Health Organization (WHO) and other health authorities suspect that human-to-human transmission of a rare strain of hantavirus occurred on the cruise ship MV Hondius.

NPR
+4
While hantavirus typically spreads from rodents to humans, this specific outbreak involves the Andes virus strain, which is known to be capable of passing directly between people, often through close contact.

NPR
+1

orangecrush

(30,917 posts)
10. Not at all.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:00 PM
18 hrs ago

Not with the present den of grifters and sociopaths.

And you can bet there will be no vaccine developed.

womanofthehills

(11,013 posts)
11. Ten yrs ago, a young college girl a town over in NM died of Hanta virus
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:43 PM
18 hrs ago

She got a job at an Apple ranch retreat that had her sweeping up mice feces from cabins that were vacant over the summer. She was given no respirators or anything to spray down mouse droppings. It was sad, as her mom was the teller in the bank in our small town. The mom would often be seen at the tiny local cemetery lying on her daughter’s grave. Beyond sad!

Grok- “ In 2016, 20-year-old Shawnee Romero from Moriarty/Torrance County, New Mexico, died of hantavirus pulmonary syndrome on June 9 after cleaning up large amounts of rodent feces and urine at her job at the Manzano Mountain Retreat and Apple Ranch (also referred to as Apple Ranch in some coverage). She was exposed while disturbing mouse droppings (likely from deer mice, the primary carrier of Sin Nombre virus in the region), which can aerosolize the virus for inhalation. pressreader.com pressreader.com
• Hantavirus vs. plague: New Mexico sees occasional plague cases (bacterial, from fleas on rodents), but this was confirmed as hantavirus, a viral illness. State health officials noted it as one of the hantavirus deaths that year. ksl.com
• Symptoms typically start flu-like and can rapidly progress to severe respiratory distress.”

Arthur_Frain

(2,404 posts)
13. Not necessarily hantavirus.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:53 PM
18 hrs ago

Not even measles, although because we’re stupid it’s making a resurgence, we possess the tools to beat it back into nothing if only the adults would ever get elected to office again.

It’s the next “unknown unknown” to quote a conservative vocabularic miscreant. The administration in its ultimate wisdom decided to replace career diplomats, virologists, scientists, generals, et al with fox news hosts, charlatans, and yes men cultists. If they’re lucky, nothing arises in the next 3 years. If we’re all unlucky, there’s a new pandemic that requires everyone’s best and brightest…and we’re going to gum up the works.

I have no predictive powers, but it seems to me this is what they usually think up to make the really scary big disaster movies. I don’t have a lot of optimism these days.

LeftInTX

(34,794 posts)
16. That's how Gene Hackman's wife died. He died from other causes.
Wed May 6, 2026, 11:23 PM
15 hrs ago

It is not contagious from person to person. You get it from rodent feces and only from specific rodents. Rodents were in their New Mexico house.

It is already endemic to the United States.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/apr/28/gene-hackman-betsy-arakawa-final-autopsy-results-complex-health-issues

orangecrush

(30,917 posts)
19. Check this out
Thu May 7, 2026, 07:45 AM
7 hrs ago


"Yes, as of May 2026, the World Health Organization (WHO) and other health authorities suspect that human-to-human transmission of a rare strain of hantavirus occurred on the cruise ship MV Hondius.

NPR
+4
While hantavirus typically spreads from rodents to humans, this specific outbreak involves the Andes virus strain, which is known to be capable of passing directly between people, often through close contact."

NPR

LeftInTX

(34,794 posts)
21. Yes, but this hantavirus is also endemic to Argentina.
Thu May 7, 2026, 08:50 AM
6 hrs ago

Yet, it's not considered an epidemic in Argentina.

I believe Argentina has the highest rate of hantavirus in the Americas. I think they lose about 100 people a year.

I don't think a person to person case will result in the virus becoming endemic in the US.

When they say close contact, I'm not quite sure what they mean.

So far, they are allowing passengers to stay on the boat until they reach the Canary Islands. (Unless they are sick) Everyone could have disembarked at Cape Verde, but they didn't. So, I don't know how concerned they are about the disease spreading. I'm thinking there are rats on the ship, but they are saying there isn't.

I went on my first and hopefully last cruise this past January. (Family imposed thing). We disembarked at Progresso, Yucatan which is the longest pier in the world. We took a bus on the four mile pier to get to town. There were bait boxes every 50 feet or so. It was kinda crazy. But the bait boxes indicated that rats are a huge problem on ships.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/06/health/andes-strain-hantavirus-explained

I really didn't enjoy being on a ship for four days, but it was a Disney cruise with the grandkids and an in-law works for Disney. Yesterday I told hubby, "No more cruises: Hantavirus". Being on a ship, just isn't my thing. I wanted to get off and "go the the store" and felt confined. I also didn't like the "dress up" stuff. And I really didn't like the Disney shows. I did enjoy disembarking at Progesso and enjoyed the sites within the Chicxulub crater, including the cenotes and Mayan ruins.

Beringia

(5,588 posts)
17. No cruise ships for me, I can't believe they had it happen on the cruise ship MV Hondius
Wed May 6, 2026, 11:35 PM
15 hrs ago

The outbreak was reported on the MV (Motor Vessel) Hondius, which was travelling between Argentina and Cape Verde

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/03/three-passengers-dead-after-suspected-hantavirus-outbreak-on-cruise-ship

LeftInTX

(34,794 posts)
25. I'm pretty sure it's one of those eco-cruises. Ship only has capacity for 196 people.
Thu May 7, 2026, 09:25 AM
5 hrs ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Hondius

Most of the passengers were birders.

The ship even stopped in Antarctica.

It was probably a very expensive cruise. Not my thing.

The ship departed Ushuaia on April 1, embarking on a polar expedition that included stops in Antarctica, South Georgia, Saint Helena and Ascension Island, before arriving off the coast of Cape Verde in early May. Foster Mohale, a spokesperson for the National Department of Health in South Africa, said the ship also stopped at Nightingale Island and Tristan da Cunha.

Here is the route. It was a one-way cruise that started at the southern tip of Argentina.

edhopper

(37,479 posts)
24. So it was brought on board
Thu May 7, 2026, 09:13 AM
5 hrs ago

by a passenger and not originally contracted on the ship.
How is that different from getting sick from someone while flying.

Traildogbob

(13,152 posts)
26. East to answer
Thu May 7, 2026, 09:33 AM
5 hrs ago

Is Trump in charge again? Count on it with the same response to the dying victims.

Sympthsical

(11,078 posts)
28. Not nearly as transmissable as Covid
Thu May 7, 2026, 10:43 AM
4 hrs ago

While it's an interesting enough story, it's unlikely to go very far.

Let's rephrase this in mediaese: "Virus hits a few Westerners who were told they were not supposed to be subjected to this sort of thing."

And panic sells clicks and eyeballs.

Not even in the top fifty of things I'm worried about this week.

orangecrush

(30,917 posts)
30. I seem to remember hearing something similar
Thu May 7, 2026, 11:05 AM
3 hrs ago

When COVID first got rolling.

If it's not as transmissible as COVID, how did it spread on the ship?

The variant that spread was human to human.

Sympthsical

(11,078 posts)
33. Because cruises are human sardine cans
Thu May 7, 2026, 11:15 AM
3 hrs ago

Where close contact and cross-contamination in spaces where people are eating together in large numbers is a thing.

I'm sorry. I can't be anxious about everything just because the media screams jump. And I certainly am not about to join in on Instant Internet Experts who are putting their Social Media University degrees in epidemiology in the microwave as we speak.

It would be a mentally exhausting way to live. I have shit to do.

EdmondDantes_

(2,009 posts)
34. Not as easy to transmit and not transmissible aren't the same
Thu May 7, 2026, 11:16 AM
3 hrs ago

Ebola is transmissible human to human and yet it's rare there's a case outside of Africa. A handful of cases of a disease doesn't mean a pandemic is happening. Bird flu variants for example.

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