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(27,222 posts)
Chasstev365
(8,082 posts)True Dough
(27,222 posts)if they swallowed Trump's horseshit for years, a pinecone sandwich isn't too much to ask.
lastlib
(28,546 posts)a saguaro cactus, or a porcupine--but I'm flexible. Pincone sammich will do.....
usonian
(26,445 posts)frogstar0
(272 posts)We should welcome all to opposing TACO. No they don't get a cookie but we should welcome their vote. Yes it will hurt to bite our tongues that hard.
True Dough
(27,222 posts)but it will be a long time before I'm ready to embrace them.
Scrivener7
(60,034 posts)LA Blue Bengal
(65 posts)I heard these words not long ago: If youre not uncomfortable, your tent is too small. Focus on the common goal - getting rid of Trump and his minions.
Martin Eden
(15,849 posts)Would telling prospective voters to "fuck off" be a successful strategy for winning elections?
We can induge our anger by directing it at fools who voted against their own interests, or focus on doing whatever it takes to build a Blue Tsunami at the polls.
A big chunk of the MAGA base is indeed full of irredeemable deplorables, but not everyone who voted for The Fascist Grifter fits that mold.
ananda
(35,437 posts)The vote seems immaterial to this.
The entire GOP is completely servile only to
the good of rich white males...
period.
This will not end well for anyone at all.
patphil
(9,196 posts)That's the truth.
But a part of me hopes that there's an awakening within these people; a realization that we're all connected in ways that result in the consequences of hate being reflected outward in unintended ways.
Hate is it's own trap. It renders the hater incapable of seeing, hearing, or feeling what the consequences of their hate is.
And then comes an awakening event; a invitation to see what hate has done, and how it doesn't care who gets hurt; how the one who gets hurt can be family, friends, or even the hater himself.
Most of these hate bound people are too far gone to respond, but some of them will.
I'm not about to welcome them with open arms, but their awakening is the first step in stopping the destruction that will inevitably follow as the consequences of hate tear away at the fabric of society.
rubbersole
(11,269 posts)The problem is they'll jump on the next racist bandwagon going down the street. They're not capable of introspection. It's not in their "privileged" DNA.
aggiesal
(10,898 posts)eppur_se_muova
(42,396 posts)thesquanderer
(13,088 posts)They were taken in by thinking he'd be better for the economy, or better on foreign policy, or better on the border.
Remember that there were a significant number of Obama voters who subsequently voted for Trump. It is unlikely that they voted for Trump out of a desire to "hurt the people I hate."
Skittles
(172,649 posts)the man is a misogynist, homophobe, transphobe, xenophobe, anti-worker, anti-science, etc. but hey, let's give him a chance
FUCK that and FUCK them, they DISGRACED America
thesquanderer
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If they voted for Obama in the past, I think some such other explanation is more likely than that they are "bad people" who voted for Trump because "he hates the people I hate."
biocube
(253 posts)I live in a small town most of my life and I do know Trump voters that are better people than most Democrats. And I don't mean people in my family or close friends. I find the small-town southeast to be nicer than the people in the big cities in the northeast.
Democrats have these things working against them:
1. The state of the education system.
2. The media. No, it's not just Fox. It's also the so-called "lib'ral media" that mormalizes Trump.
3. Democratic messaging. I can't emphasize this enough, Dems are no longer considered the party of the working class. It's not enough to preserve social security and Medicaid. Dems have to aggressively promote new ideas and not care if Democratic donors think it's too radical.
Skittles
(172,649 posts)I've lived rural, suburban and city, and acts of kindness are everywhere....and I have noticed even the "nicest" people can be racist assholes
Skittles
(172,649 posts)I'll allow that a fucking idiot might have wanted "something different" the first time but after that, HELL FUCKING NO
seriously, declining to vote would have been a more honorable option
they have DISGRACED America in the eyes of the WORLD
usedtobedemgurl
(2,065 posts)The first time? But they saw kids in cages. They saw the grift. As a rape survivor, even the first timeVoting for that piece of shit is offensive. Locker room talk or not, he boasted about grabbing women, non-consensually, by the pussy. They still voted for him. Let's say be was just bragging and nothing ever happened (I do not believe that, he is an adjudicated rapist), what he said was gross. Brag about winning a golf game but bragging about sexually assaulting women? He told them who he was and they did not care!
They saw what he was and voted for him a second and sometimes third time. They heard his racism about Hispanics when he announced his first run. They were fine with it. They voted for him. Does that sound like a decent person?
I saw people at his rallies with shirts saying dummy could grab them by their pussy. That's making fun of assault victims. Are they good people?
I told my lawn guy if his family ever needed to run, I will take them in. I had to do that because these folks are not decent. I think if you could see deep inside the minds of those "good" dummy voters that underneath it all, they are a,basket of deplorables.
thesquanderer
(13,088 posts)Even when Clinton used that term, she was referring to only a subset of his voters.
Lots of people pay little attention to politics/news in general. I would not assume that all the voters knew about all the things you mentioned. That's why my alternate explanations to "he hates who I hate" included being ignorant or misinformed. I have been amazed by things that friends and business associates have not known.

