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DavidDvorkin

(20,753 posts)
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 06:43 PM 15 hrs ago

I find myself liking Giorgia Meloni

And America is allied with Russia against Europe.

And the Nationalists are the pro-China Taiwanese opposition party.

The world has gone mad.

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I find myself liking Giorgia Meloni (Original Post) DavidDvorkin 15 hrs ago OP
I admire her for standing up to the fool MustLoveBeagles 15 hrs ago #1
. WhiskeyGrinder 15 hrs ago #2
She's a fascist, a bit to the right of Darth Vader, Ocelot II 14 hrs ago #3
absolutely hookaleft 3 hrs ago #23
Maybe she and Rachele Mussolini will have you over for tea TheProle 14 hrs ago #4
Wow. DavidDvorkin 11 hrs ago #19
Her politics is not the issue. It's her not putting up with TSF's lies and bullying when most still do. Good on her Deuxcents 14 hrs ago #5
She's a fascist too. BlueTsunami2018 14 hrs ago #6
One of my best friends is a gay Italian expat who can't take his kids back to see their grandparents in Italy meadowlander 14 hrs ago #7
It's amazing to me that getting into an ego fight with Trump makes someone "good" EdmondDantes_ 14 hrs ago #10
No one's saying it makes her good. DavidDvorkin 12 hrs ago #14
And yet you like her because of a minor dispute she has with Trump EdmondDantes_ 12 hrs ago #15
I like that aspect of her and I like her for the moment DavidDvorkin 11 hrs ago #18
'I thought the cynical lightheartedness was obvious. ' Intractable 10 hrs ago #20
I'm not sure her domestic politics are my concern being that I'm not Italian fujiyamasan 11 hrs ago #17
Fascism is everyone's concern. BlueTsunami2018 4 hrs ago #22
This message was self-deleted by its author LetMyPeopleVote 14 hrs ago #8
Raise your hand ✋ if you STAND with Giorgia Meloni against Trump LetMyPeopleVote 14 hrs ago #9
Love hate SuzyandPuffpuff 14 hrs ago #11
She's as bad as Trump. RandySF 14 hrs ago #12
Oh, I know that DavidDvorkin 12 hrs ago #13
At least she's not a stooge for Putin fujiyamasan 11 hrs ago #16
Well, she good looking. Intractable 10 hrs ago #21

Ocelot II

(131,765 posts)
3. She's a fascist, a bit to the right of Darth Vader,
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 06:58 PM
14 hrs ago

but at least she's standing up to Trump so I'll give her that. She's not someone we should actually like, though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgia_Meloni

hookaleft

(1,229 posts)
23. absolutely
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 06:24 AM
3 hrs ago

Meloni is a conservative and right-wing populist who is also a critic of globalism. She is opposed to euthanasia, same-sex marriage, and same-sex parenting, stating that nuclear families are exclusively headed by male–female pairs. Meloni supported (but never enacted) a naval blockade to halt illegal immigration, and she has been described as xenophobic and Islamophobic by some critics. A supporter of NATO, she maintains Eurosceptic views regarding the European Union (EU), views she describes as "Eurorealist". She favoured improved relations with Russia before the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, which she condemned, pledging to keep sending arms to Ukraine. In 2024, Forbes ranked Meloni as the third-most-powerful woman in the world and she was listed amongst the most influential people in the world by Time magazine, while Politico ranked her as the most powerful person in Europe in 202

Deuxcents

(28,170 posts)
5. Her politics is not the issue. It's her not putting up with TSF's lies and bullying when most still do. Good on her
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:07 PM
14 hrs ago

BlueTsunami2018

(5,134 posts)
6. She's a fascist too.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:18 PM
14 hrs ago

I swear, the worst people get a glow up just for calling Piss an asshole.

She’s terrible.

meadowlander

(5,178 posts)
7. One of my best friends is a gay Italian expat who can't take his kids back to see their grandparents in Italy
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:30 PM
14 hrs ago

because they can't get a passport that recognises him and his partner as the kids' parents.

So yeah, she's fab

EdmondDantes_

(2,266 posts)
10. It's amazing to me that getting into an ego fight with Trump makes someone "good"
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:36 PM
14 hrs ago

She's objectively a horrible person.

EdmondDantes_

(2,266 posts)
15. And yet you like her because of a minor dispute she has with Trump
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:53 PM
12 hrs ago

That shouldn't override the 95+% of things they are in lock step on to make you like her. You shouldn't like a fascist just because she doesn't want to be seen as begging for a picture when she's homophobic, anti-immigrant, etc.

DavidDvorkin

(20,753 posts)
18. I like that aspect of her and I like her for the moment
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 10:43 PM
11 hrs ago

I thought the cynical lightheartedness was obvious. I also thought it was the right that had no sense of humor, especially about themselves.

fujiyamasan

(2,160 posts)
17. I'm not sure her domestic politics are my concern being that I'm not Italian
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 10:31 PM
11 hrs ago

All I know is she’s pushing back on Trump better than many so called liberal European leaders.

BlueTsunami2018

(5,134 posts)
22. Fascism is everyone's concern.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 05:45 AM
4 hrs ago

No matter where it’s happening.

To be unconcerned with it seems crazy to me.

Response to DavidDvorkin (Original post)

SuzyandPuffpuff

(772 posts)
11. Love hate
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:36 PM
14 hrs ago

She's just stating facts. I don't like her politics but she's just stating facts. Facts be facts. 😆

DavidDvorkin

(20,753 posts)
13. Oh, I know that
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:33 PM
12 hrs ago

I have no illusions about her. But right now, for the moment, I like her.

fujiyamasan

(2,160 posts)
16. At least she's not a stooge for Putin
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 10:27 PM
11 hrs ago

She also didn’t start an idiotic war against Iran… and doesn’t have her own geatapo rounding up citizens…

I could keep going.

Trump is objectively worse on almost every measure. And Italian politics are of no concern to me.

Intractable

(2,563 posts)
21. Well, she good looking.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:14 PM
10 hrs ago

That's called damning with faint praise.

Politically, she was an ally of Trump.

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