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Sorry Dan Goldman was defeated tonight (Original Post) Chasstev365 16 hrs ago OP
Or run for the Senate. RandySF 16 hrs ago #1
I'd love to see him in Schumer's seat! mountain grammy 14 hrs ago #33
He would be excellent in the Senate. I hope he runs. n/t Greybnk48 14 hrs ago #34
That's a shame canetoad 16 hrs ago #2
Goldman was a heavy hitter for Dems during oasis 16 hrs ago #6
AIPAC funding appears to be a liability these days. Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #3
being jewish is a liability these days. mopinko 15 hrs ago #12
Must be why Lander won. AloeVera 15 hrs ago #15
Yeah, Lander is very jewish yet somehow won. mr715 15 hrs ago #18
Brad Lander is Jewish. PufPuf23 15 hrs ago #21
Um, Brad Lander is Jewish. choie 15 hrs ago #24
Seriously? vanlassie 13 hrs ago #39
Clearly not in this case. Scrivener7 7 hrs ago #43
Except Brad Lander is Jewish obamanut2012 3 hrs ago #51
The guy that beat him is jewish JBTaurus83 3 hrs ago #53
Lander got TWICE as many votes. AloeVera 15 hrs ago #14
Lander got 66% or so. Potent repudiation of AIPAC and allies. mr715 15 hrs ago #17
Yes, and Goldman 33%. AloeVera 15 hrs ago #19
I think in many voters minds, those are the same thing. But yes, I take your point. Scrivener7 5 hrs ago #45
You are right of course. AloeVera 4 hrs ago #47
NO! It's an important distinction for some. Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #48
When it becomes a political liability to send blank checks to genociders Prairie Gates 16 hrs ago #4
Perhaps his refusal to endorse Mamdani, who is quite popular in NY factored in. Nanjeanne 16 hrs ago #5
Yep. And to be clear, endorse in the general election Hassin Bin Sober 15 hrs ago #20
Yes. So glad Lander won. He's going to be a terrific Congressman. Nanjeanne 4 hrs ago #46
He would make a good Deputy Attorney General kentuck 15 hrs ago #7
That's sad. He is amongst the best. Dave says 15 hrs ago #8
Attorney General material. Sneederbunk 15 hrs ago #16
Hey! Now THERE'S an interesting idea. calimary 14 hrs ago #30
Hate to see him go jmbar2 15 hrs ago #9
I am too. He certainly has skills and abilities that should not be wasted... hlthe2b 15 hrs ago #10
Wow. underpants 15 hrs ago #11
I am too. I was a big fan of his work during the first Trump impeachment. Tommy Carcetti 15 hrs ago #13
He'll be fine. He did spend a bunch of his own money... littlemissmartypants 15 hrs ago #22
More good news to light up my life... BigmanPigman 15 hrs ago #23
What's behind the hostility toward primaries? hurl 14 hrs ago #25
What's wrong with expressing regret to see a good public servant go? RandySF 14 hrs ago #26
He will be gone for a bit, and then come back better in some way. EndlessMaze 14 hrs ago #27
Perhaps ITAL 11 hrs ago #42
Agreed. I'm seeing all these grand predictions that he could be the next US Senator and .... losing one's House seat Midwestern Democrat 2 hrs ago #58
His electoral career is over. mr715 1 hr ago #61
Nothing at all hurl 14 hrs ago #28
Part of being a public servant is accepting when to go. mr715 1 hr ago #60
There are a lot of Netanyahu and corporate JBTaurus83 3 hrs ago #54
As a Californian have little knowledge FHRRK1 14 hrs ago #29
Post removed Post removed 14 hrs ago #32
See one reply got hidden FHRRK1 13 hrs ago #40
Also in CA -- Porter is neither far right nor far left obamanut2012 3 hrs ago #52
It is simple. NY-10 is VERY progressive. The only reason Goldman first won (in 2022) was because so many Celerity 12 hrs ago #41
Both good candidates....I think it NYC is on a roll, may the joy spread nationally!! walkingman 14 hrs ago #31
I am happy Lander won. Celerity 14 hrs ago #35
So am I! I always thought of him as one of our very best, he was lead counsel for the felon's impeachment trial Rhiannon12866 14 hrs ago #36
Next time you have the chance NJCher 13 hrs ago #37
Dan Goldman is a good man and a good Democrat. Brad Lander is a good man and a good Democrat. Quiet Em 13 hrs ago #38
Yes, I agree! QueerDuck 6 hrs ago #44
If Schumer retires in 28 SocialDemocrat61 4 hrs ago #49
Brad Lander is a good guy obamanut2012 3 hrs ago #50
Weighing in from TX so I could be off - TBF 3 hrs ago #55
Bottom line: Vote for the DEMOCRAT in the GENERAL election. DinahMoeHum 3 hrs ago #56
Yes ma'am - I know it gets emotional in primaries TBF 1 hr ago #59
Dan Goldman will once again be appointed lead impeachment prosecutor when we win the House, lapucelle 3 hrs ago #57
The people of NY-10 will have great representation. AloeVera 52 min ago #62

oasis

(54,308 posts)
6. Goldman was a heavy hitter for Dems during
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:12 PM
16 hrs ago

congressional hearings. He held witnesses’ feet to the fire.

mr715

(4,818 posts)
18. Yeah, Lander is very jewish yet somehow won.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:40 PM
15 hrs ago

Some can separate the actions of a nation (Israel) from the tenets of a religion (Judaism).

Some people's politics are focused on the USA and not overseas apartheid states that are our "BIBLICAL" ally.

AloeVera

(4,625 posts)
14. Lander got TWICE as many votes.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:34 PM
15 hrs ago

This in spite of the endorsement of Goldman by Democratic luminaries Schumer, Jeffries, Hochul and Pelosi.

No, this was not just AIPAC. It was a massive repudiation by voters of the centrist/moderate position on Gaza and the unconditional support for Israel.

AloeVera

(4,625 posts)
19. Yes, and Goldman 33%.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:42 PM
15 hrs ago

Massive repudiation not just of AIPAC but the centrist/moderate position on Gaza and unconditioned funding to Israel.

Prairie Gates

(8,647 posts)
4. When it becomes a political liability to send blank checks to genociders
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 09:48 PM
16 hrs ago

Maybe people will reconsider.

calimary

(91,427 posts)
30. Hey! Now THERE'S an interesting idea.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:38 PM
14 hrs ago

He’d be good at it. And it would pump up his profile, too - for possible future campaigns.

jmbar2

(8,271 posts)
9. Hate to see him go
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:22 PM
15 hrs ago

I'm not a New Yorker, so not up on all the details, but he always seemed to be a solid, decent fighter. We need to find a new role for him. He is a keeper.

hlthe2b

(115,163 posts)
10. I am too. He certainly has skills and abilities that should not be wasted...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:26 PM
15 hrs ago

There is certainly a need for more help on these voter disenfranchisement lawsuits that Marc Elias and his team (and others) are involved in.

I'm sorry he lost this time around. I thought he was an effective Congressman.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,611 posts)
13. I am too. I was a big fan of his work during the first Trump impeachment.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:33 PM
15 hrs ago

And was happy to have seen him parlay that into public service.

Rather disappointed by that outcome.

littlemissmartypants

(35,416 posts)
22. He'll be fine. He did spend a bunch of his own money...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:05 PM
15 hrs ago

But as an heir to the Levi Strauss & Co's fortune, his net worth is about a quarter of a billion.

Brad Lander, on the other hand, built his progressive campaign on small-dollar donations and grassroots energy.

Congratulations to all of the winners.

BigmanPigman

(55,742 posts)
23. More good news to light up my life...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:08 PM
15 hrs ago


Every fucking day is the same as the previous day, only shittier due to the sadistic, greedy, psychopathic fake POTUS.

hurl

(1,068 posts)
25. What's behind the hostility toward primaries?
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:24 PM
14 hrs ago

It seems to me that the locals in NY, who presumably know these candidates best, made their own decision. This looks like the most 'small-d' democratic outcome. I liked Goldman too and thought he was brilliant in his very public Trump opposition. That said, should I be upset if voters in that district, the very ones with the most to gain or lose, thought they could do even better?

Midwestern Democrat

(1,055 posts)
58. Agreed. I'm seeing all these grand predictions that he could be the next US Senator and .... losing one's House seat
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:00 PM
2 hrs ago

by over 30 points is not typically a springboard to higher office - US Senator or Governor - a result like that is much more typically the end of one's political career.

mr715

(4,818 posts)
61. His electoral career is over.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:23 PM
1 hr ago

He may very well receive an executive or ambassadorial job. The private sector is always there.

He certainly will be extremely wealthy and never want for anything in his personal life re: possessions

mr715

(4,818 posts)
60. Part of being a public servant is accepting when to go.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:21 PM
1 hr ago

I empathize with you in spirit. It is disheartening to see people we've seen fight for us lose because of our inherent human tribalism. They're with our team, so we want them to win.

Please understand I am not trying to box you into feeling a certain way, I'm simply offering my perspective on coping with, shall we say, electoral disappointment.

I've stated before on this forum that it is healthier to view our elected officials strictly through a transactional, public policy agenda. When we are in a primary we ask ourselves, of the choices presented, which of these fulfills the conditions to both achieve the tactical victory of getting elected and the strategic victory of advancing social justice and protecting liberty.

Within this space, "narratives" or other electoral currents drift the conversation one way or the other. In this case, the endorsement of Mamdani and the general anti-establishment, anti-genocide currents pulled an incumbent down and elevated a pseudo-insurgent. I say "pseudo" because Lander is by no means an outsider or without independent qualifications of his own. His candidacy cannot be compared to true insurgent candidacies like Graham Platner or Zohran Mamdani himself.

At this point in history, I am of the opinion that the Democratic party is feeling a need to resist against old paradigms that have given us essentially no political success in the 21st century.

Finding "heroes" in politicians is a recipe for heartbreak because they aren't heroes. They are humans with ambitions. Moreover, they are often compromised by the system that elevates and exalts the rich and the powerful at the expense of those without. This selects for a 'ruling class' of self-interested, arrogant, and insulated leaders.

I was real sad to see Al Franken go, for example. I read his books. He made me laugh. But, on the whole, there was no value lost because his replacement was just as competent as he is, and he got to continue fighting the good fight on a different front than in the Senate. While I was sad to see him go, I processed that he isn't my personal friend and he isn't owed anything by virtue of being famous or having occupied the position he had.

So look... I feel like I know where you are coming from. I hope I understand. We are on the same team.

JBTaurus83

(1,846 posts)
54. There are a lot of Netanyahu and corporate
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 10:42 AM
3 hrs ago

Water carriers who are upset that they are being challenged. The guy should have run a better campaign. Such is life, it’s a primary and he lost.

Response to FHRRK1 (Reply #29)

FHRRK1

(202 posts)
40. See one reply got hidden
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:03 AM
13 hrs ago

But still would like to see some locals weigh in. You want info on why Katie Porter flamed out, I'm your guy, live in the District she represented.
Did see some info in thread below, but here is my take. And it is basic physics. Push an object on a string far right and it will correct to far left. The middle/pliable five percent swings with the force. That's it.

Now a lot of other factors get mentioned and overblown, but it really comes down the physics, or just the feelings of the pliable 5%. With that, it seems like races like these may create infighting. Please remember, that infighting makes the pliable five percenters relavent.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221326227

obamanut2012

(29,666 posts)
52. Also in CA -- Porter is neither far right nor far left
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 10:35 AM
3 hrs ago

Brad Lander is not "far left." Lander is also Jewish, so he is not antisemitic.

Celerity

(55,324 posts)
41. It is simple. NY-10 is VERY progressive. The only reason Goldman first won (in 2022) was because so many
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:22 AM
12 hrs ago

progressives foolishly all ran and split the vote, allowing Goldman to win the seat by winning only 25.8 per cent of the vote in the primary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections_in_New_York#District_10





In 2024, no serious candidate ran against Goldman, and yet he still only got 66.1 per cent of the vote in the primary.



In 2026, once Lander got in, no other major progressive ran against him (and Goldman) in the primary, so Lander easily beat Goldman.

Rhiannon12866

(260,975 posts)
36. So am I! I always thought of him as one of our very best, he was lead counsel for the felon's impeachment trial
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:05 AM
14 hrs ago

I'm also in New York and have always wished than I had Rep. Goldman instead of Stefanik.

NJCher

(43,801 posts)
37. Next time you have the chance
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:27 AM
13 hrs ago

To hear Lander speak, notice how articulate he is. Not only is he able to articulate complex concepts exceedingly well, his rate of speech is perfect. I always make a point to listen to him WNYC.

Quiet Em

(3,220 posts)
38. Dan Goldman is a good man and a good Democrat. Brad Lander is a good man and a good Democrat.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:28 AM
13 hrs ago

This was not a loss for the Democratic Party.

NY's 10th still has excellent representation in the House.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,295 posts)
49. If Schumer retires in 28
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 09:52 AM
4 hrs ago

and AOC doesn't run for that seat, he should go for it. He'd make a fine Senate candidate.

TBF

(37,609 posts)
55. Weighing in from TX so I could be off -
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 10:45 AM
3 hrs ago

but my guess is that even with establishment dems, some will fall due to an anti-establishment mood in the country right now. I'm glad a good progressive was elected but would've been fine w/either.

Hopefully when we get through these primaries and to the general that anti-establishment feeling will hold and usher out a lot of republicans. Then we can put Trump in lame duck status where he belongs.

DinahMoeHum

(23,750 posts)
56. Bottom line: Vote for the DEMOCRAT in the GENERAL election.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 10:59 AM
3 hrs ago

no matter who wins in the primary.

Eyes on the prize, folks.

TBF

(37,609 posts)
59. Yes ma'am - I know it gets emotional in primaries
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:18 PM
1 hr ago

lots of activists on this site who believe strongly in their candidates. But after we have to come together and push in every dem! 100% agree w/you!!

lapucelle

(21,226 posts)
57. Dan Goldman will once again be appointed lead impeachment prosecutor when we win the House,
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 11:02 AM
3 hrs ago

serve in the next Democratic administration (possibly as Attorney General), and run for Senate (and likely win) when a seat opens.

Meanwhile, the folks in NY-10 will get exactly the representation that they deserve.





AloeVera

(4,625 posts)
62. The people of NY-10 will have great representation.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:21 PM
52 min ago

I am sure that's what you meant. Right?

After all, that is what the people of NY-10 deserve. Right?

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