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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHe wasn't talking to any of us
He was talking to his white domestic terrorists. The ones that know that he will pardon them for ANY crimes they commit.
He was talking to election deniers , some of whom are in positions of authority in state offices.
He was talking to fringe judges.
He is letting everyone know that just as he put out a call on Jan. 6 , he will be putting out a call for the midterms in Nov.
He knows that it doesnt have to be national wide. Just enough disruption and violence in a number of locations will suffice.
He was talking to the generals he didnt fire. Get ready to obey unlawful orders.
He is letting everyone know that the midterms in Nov. will make Jan. 6 . Look like a walk in the park.
He is counting on MSM to act like this is hyperbolic, and to continue to treat the republican party as normal.
He is counting on people being upset about his lies, knowing that while everyone is talking about his lies, no one will be planning for his violence.
Best idea Ive heard to overcome this is still, show up in overwhelming numbers to vote.
mopinko
(74,366 posts)it wasnt spontaneous. it wasnt some outpouring of misplaced civic engagement.
it was organized. it was instigated. it was FUNDED. and for the most part, it was done in broad daylight.
imho, there was a major failure of the j6 committee to follow the money. i guess it was a bridge too far to trace the payment for the buses back to ginny thomas.
blue state law enforcement had best b watching the info channels where these plans get hatched and b ready. if steve bannon starts organizing rallies, load the rifles.
Tim S
(407 posts)Trump hopes those enraged citizens demand that their legislators pass the (doomed) SAVE voting bill.
TNNurse
(7,571 posts)are really with him or are they afraid of the repercussions for going against him? I am not just talking about election issues, I mean violence, fraudulent charges against the congress person and/or their family. He has thugs that do his bidding.
Tim S
(407 posts)The Russians and NSA. If you annoy him, he just sees what leverage he has on all your intercepted private communications and has a quiet word with you.
We knew back in George Ws admin that the NSA had taps at the central Internet exchanges with on both coasts (Anyone remember Project Echelon? This has been going on for over two decades now. How is AI currently re-indexing all of this gathered material to better weaponize it?)
And to think that we used to joke about the USSR keeping tabs on its citizens.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,909 posts)This is a myth disproven by actual election results over the past 18 months.
When 2024 Trump +20 districts are swinging 15-30 point towards Dems in place like FL, TX and GA, there can be no strategic targeting of any particular area with just enough disruption and violence to affect the outcome, at least not without affecting the outcome for Republican candidates too.
Please quote the section of last nights speech that indicates he will order troops to enter polling places, seize ballots or fire on civilians.
Every other serious, rational analysis of last nights speech, even by sympathetic news outlets, did NOT come away with the impression that you did.
Instead, they reported, accurately, the lie-filled rantings of a demented octogenarian who knows that, despite gerrymandering and voter suppression, his party is going to lose big in the midterms, and who knows there is little else he can do about it except whine and complain.
Consider the possibility that your amygdala, like many others, has been overstimulated in the Trump era, and a catastrophizing fear response to anything he says has become automatic.
More importantly, never forget this one absolute truth:
Trump is not omnipotent, and the states and the people are not powerless
Trump continues to lose case after case in court related to his election demands. The states have refused to comply, without consequences, and all he can do is demand congress pass the SAVE act.
Thats it.
Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami.
hamsterjill
(18,132 posts)We know this about him from the information gleaned from past associates and what has been said about him with regard to Epstein. He likes to watch other people suffer. It makes him feel powerful. When he sees his minions actually fighting "for him", he probably has an erection. He's deviant.
He's an asshole, and wants to be a dictator.
In every thread like this, we ultimately get the same posters insisting that when it's time for him to leave, he's going to smile, shake hands and ride off into the sunset. We know from January 6th NOT to assume this.
YES, ABSA-FUCKINGLUTELY, the best idea is to show up in overwhelming numbers and vote.
But being prepared for something like January 6th is not foolish. It occurred. We witnessed it. It was real.
It happened, and it can happen again. No one knows the future and whether it will actually happen or not. But not preparing for it would be NOT having learned our lesson last time, and being over confident in anything right now, is just plain stupid.
The Blue Tsunami is not a given. We aren't there yet. There was great confidence that Hillary was going to be a given. Guess what? She wasn't. There was great hope that Kamala was going to win. Guess what? She didn't.
I think it is prudent and rational to talk about this. But some on DU can't stand the idea that we even bring it up. That is naivete at its finest in my opinion. They are caught up in polling and what they THINK is going to happen. Again, overconfidence is not something we need.
You can't point to specific words that Trump says in a speech. He speaks in code to his followers. He knows how to push THEIR buttons and the hot points to rile them up. So someone asking for specific points, just doesn't get the concept.
Trump is an idiot in many ways, but riling up his followers and knowing how to do that and get them to blindly try to save their king is something he knows full well how to do.
Katcat
(689 posts)Pretty sure that Trump won the last election with elons help. He said on numerous occasions that Elon knows the voting machines very well
Grumpy Old Guy
(4,469 posts)Hieronymus Phact
(803 posts)I've been saying this for years.
As we laugh and point and titter at the stupidity.
They are communicating, and they ARE NOT TALKING TO YOU.
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relogic
(480 posts)That was theirs and millions of peoples mistake eleven years ago. The normalization of comfy, warm, soothing waves of mousy sounds spewing forth from a bombastic clown are still with us.
lame54
(40,567 posts)Wait till he's out of office before charging them
Racygrandma
(225 posts)It is January 6 all over again. It worked the first time
purr-rat beauty
(1,811 posts)Stirring up shit with his sweet whispers
Prairie_Seagull
(4,945 posts)It's popularity will continue to wane. If this becomes more like a given then what will his most likely response be. This is perhaps the most petrifying and real patriotic moment since what... Kent State.
Time for courage will soon be upon us.
We got this.
IMO