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muriel_volestrangler

(105,656 posts)
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 06:46 PM Tuesday

COO of Turning Point UK wants the German Iron Cross as the symbol of UK Independence Party

New proposed Ukip logo compared to iron cross used by Nazi regime

A proposed new Ukip logo likened to the black military cross associated with the German empire and later the Nazis is being considered by electoral authorities.

A previous application by Ukip, which was once led by Nigel Farage, was rejected last November after the Electoral Commission deemed it as offensive.

That application featured a black cross with a sword and a spear running through it. Ukip, which has increasingly shifted to the far right in recent years, has now submitted a new application, which appears similar but is without the sword. It includes the word Ukip, with “The New Right” underneath.
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Nick Tenconi, a personal trainer who became Ukip’s leader last year, has been at the forefront of efforts to steer the party in an explicitly Christian nationalist direction.
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He is also the chief operating officer of Turning Point UK, the British offshoot of the conservative pressure group founded by the US activist Charlie Kirk, who was assassinated last year. Turning Point UK has continued to have contact with the Conservative party, with Kemi Badenoch meeting some of its young activists after Kirk’s death.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jan/13/new-proposed-ukip-logo-compared-to-iron-cross-used-by-nazi-regime





UKIP is trying to call it the "cross pattée" - sounds more innocent than 'Tatzenkreuz'. They claim "Our new logo features the holy lance, the Eucharist and the Cross Pattée, to show UKIP’s commitment to reinstate Christianity into the heart of government." "The holy lance" is not exactly a standard Christian symbol; they seem to be saying a circle is "the Eucharist", and yeah, my immediate thought was the Iron Cross. This is "Christianity" as a cover for violence.

I thought the Turning Point connection may be interesting to US DUers.
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COO of Turning Point UK wants the German Iron Cross as the symbol of UK Independence Party (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Tuesday OP
They're not even pretending not to be Nazis any more. Ocelot II Tuesday #1
The German Iron Cross in England... I would Botany Tuesday #2
As US "Christian" Nationalism becomes increasingly corrupted... T_i_B Wednesday #3
Ironically, we have Christianity in our unwritten constitution, and the loonies reject it as the wrong sort muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #4
Female ordination is a major "Christian" Nationalist gripe T_i_B Wednesday #5
The religious right don't like the Church of England leadership LeftishBrit Yesterday #7
Very very scary LeftishBrit Yesterday #6

T_i_B

(14,883 posts)
3. As US "Christian" Nationalism becomes increasingly corrupted...
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 02:14 PM
Wednesday

... becoming less and less Christian and more and more overtly Nazi, so the remnants of UKIP follow suit.

Thing is, Christian Nationalism is completely at odds with English history since 1660. We tried that particular experiment with Oliver Cromwell in the 1650's and it did not turn out terribly well.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,656 posts)
4. Ironically, we have Christianity in our unwritten constitution, and the loonies reject it as the wrong sort
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 03:00 PM
Wednesday

We have a monarch crowned in an abbey by the top priest of the national church, and Anglican bishops with automatic places in the upper chamber of parliament, but the lunatics think their king is a traitor:

These stories are in turn part of a ferocious and increasingly unhinged attack upon the Labour government and, more fundamentally, upon the nature of contemporary Britain. It’s not unusual for Labour governments to face hostility from the right-wing media and, goodness knows, this government has done plenty of things which warrant criticism, but I don’t think that it has ever been on this scale before. What is certainly distinctive is the way that it is now taking the form of an almost psychotic frenzy of hatred directed at almost everything about Britain. That has been developing for a while, but has been especially striking over the holiday period, including an outpouring of social media fury about the Link to tweet
" target="_blank">King’s Speech having been ‘traitorous’ (specifically for referring to diversity as a strength, but his supposed treachery is a recurring far-right claim), and about London’s New Year firework display showing the stars of the EU flag at one stage.

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2026/01/enemies-within-and-without.html

The first link goes to a Twitter thread, in which the participants aren't even bothering to explain why they're calling their king a traitor - they've been doing it so much that they think everyone has accepted it as a truth (the 2nd is someone from GB News ranting about the European flag - which was displayed because of the Ryder Cup win). Seeing that thread I can understand why people say Twitter is now a cesspit of RW fanaticism - it makes the old Free Britannia site look like a vicar's tea party. I expect half of them are also outraged that the next Archbishop of Canterbury will be a woman, and not Bear Grylls. Or Tommy Robinson, now that's he's declared himself the True Christian.

T_i_B

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5. Female ordination is a major "Christian" Nationalist gripe
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 04:53 PM
Wednesday

Last edited Mon Jan 19, 2026, 02:35 PM - Edit history (1)

It's a cause that's deeply misogynistic, especially towards female clergy.

It may not surprise you to learn that John Knox (instigator of the Scottish Reformation and author of the "First Blast of the Trumpet against the monstrous regiment of Women") is a major influence on Christian Nationalism.

And yes, Twitter has become an absolute cesspit. But recent scandals about CSAM are causing more people to leave in disgust at present.

LeftishBrit

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7. The religious right don't like the Church of England leadership
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 04:30 PM
Yesterday

They thought Rowan Williams, JustinWelby and now Sarah Mullaly were far too liberal. And yes, Sarah Mullaly is also far too female for a lot of them,

LeftishBrit

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6. Very very scary
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 04:13 PM
Yesterday

I think that we (at least outside Northern Ireland) are sometimes insufficiently aware of the Christian Right's potential for troublemaking in the Uk. it's not on the level of the American 'Bible Belt', certainly. But I won't forget 2010, when 'pro-lifers' smeared and helped to defeat my MP Evan Harris, calling him Dr. Death, and the Rev. George Pitcher wrote an article on the Telegraph headed 'The best result of the election. Let us rejoice that Evan Harris has lost his seat'. An earlier MP for my area, John Patten, was a fairly disastrous Tory Education Secretary in the 90s. who once blamed juvenile delinquency and school indiscipline on the fact that *too few people believe in Hell*. (This is a marginal, seemingly-liberal constituency, which later voted overwhelmingly for Remain.)

Nortthern Ireland has always of course suffered badly from the Christian Right. I thought no one could be worse than the Paisleys, until 2024 when Paisley Jr lost his seat to nutty Jim Allister.

But the situation has defiinitely got worse since the American and British religious-righties have collaborated increasingly online, and have fused increasingly with the racists,

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