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TexasTowelie

(127,028 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2026, 07:03 PM 23 hrs ago

Let's talk about Trump telling the truth for once.... - Belle of the Ranch



Well, howdy there Internet people. It's Belle again. So, today we're going to talk about Trump telling the truth for once.

Trump did something completely unexpected. He told the truth. He posted to social media, "The United States is the largest oil producer in the world by far. So, when oil prices go up, we make a lot of money. But a far greater interest and importance to me as president is stopping an evil empire, Iran, from having nuclear weapons and destroying the Middle East and indeed the world. I won't ever let that happen. Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump.”

Let's just skip over the fact that it was Trump's war that led to the region going to war and ships being on fire in the Strait and the Red Sea. When oil prices go up, we make a lot of money. I know a lot of people have already jumped on this and asked their audience if they feel like they're making more money when gas prices go up, but I think they're actually missing the bigger point. Trump told the truth. As long as you know who he counts as We.

If there's one thing I wish people would really grasp, it's that Trump doesn't seem to use that word like most American presidents do. When most presidents use that word, they mean we the American people. When Trump uses it, it really seems like he means we the establishment, we the billionaires, we the owner class. When you read it like that, it makes so much more sense.

He and his class make out with high gas prices. They turn record profits. Don't forget that Trump is just another establishment billionaire wrapped up in some faux anti-establishment rhetoric. Those higher gas prices mean his buddies in the oil business get to make more money while you're using buy now pay later for groceries.

When he says we, it seems like he means we the people who are profiting on the backs of the working class.

Think back to his other statements when he uses we or us. He said the tariffs were quote making us rich. Are the tariffs making you rich or are they costing you more? It's costing you more, right? Because the We he's talking about are the people passing the costs on to you. The billionaires are still making their money. Then think about what he said the tariffs will do.

"As time goes by, I believe the tariffs paid for by foreign countries will, like in the past, substantially replace the modern-day system of income tax. You know you're paying them. Are you a foreign country?" Of course not.

But you're sure not part of Trump's We, but the cost gets passed on to you and then income tax will substantially go away. Who does that benefit? It doesn't benefit you. Sure, the money wouldn't come out of your check, but you just pay it at the cash register. Who does it help? Trump's we, the billionaires. The super rich will pay far less in taxes.

You may cringe at how absurd the statement, "When oil prices go up, we make a lot of money," is, but it's only because you still think you're part of Trump's We. You're not. and you never were.

Anyway, it's just a thought. Y'all have a good day.
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Let's talk about Trump telling the truth for once.... - Belle of the Ranch (Original Post) TexasTowelie 23 hrs ago OP
Up until 2015 The Bopper 19 hrs ago #1
Deadline Legal Blog-No, the Supreme Court didn't say Trump has 'absolute right to charge TARIFFS' differently LetMyPeopleVote 3 hrs ago #2

The Bopper

(302 posts)
1. Up until 2015
Sun Mar 15, 2026, 10:53 PM
19 hrs ago

American oil wasn't sold on the open market and thus wouldn't have been affected by today's Iran debacle. Big oil spent a lot of lobbying money to change that and is now their excuse for jacking up our cost. President Executive order could temporarily fix that and our prices would be cut in half.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,037 posts)
2. Deadline Legal Blog-No, the Supreme Court didn't say Trump has 'absolute right to charge TARIFFS' differently
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 02:27 PM
3 hrs ago

Kavanaugh’s dissent argued that the president’s backup plan might succeed, but the majority didn’t preapprove it.

MSNow : No, the US Supreme Court didn’t say trump has ‘absolute right to charge TARIFFS’ differently

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Joe Public (@joepublic.bsky.social) 2026-03-16T17:05:56.633Z

https://www.ms.now/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/no-the-supreme-court-didnt-say-trump-has-absolute-right-to-charge-tariffs-differently

President Donald Trump complained on Sunday night about some of his legal losses, including last month’s Supreme Court tariffs ruling, which said he didn’t have the power he claimed to have under a law called the International Emergency Economic Powers Act. One of the untrue things he wrote in lengthy Truth Social posts was that the court “pointed out” that he has “the absolute right to charge TARIFFS in another form.”

It’s true that Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s dissent said that “the Court’s decision might not prevent Presidents from imposing most if not all of these same sorts of tariffs under other statutory authorities.” But that musing only represented the view of the three dissenters on the nine-member court: Kavanaugh and Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito.

In his majority opinion, Chief Justice John Roberts stressed that the court wasn’t weighing in on those other authorities.

Roberts wrote in a footnote that Kavanaugh’s dissent “surmises that the President could impose ‘most if not all’ of the tariffs at issue under statutes other than IEEPA.” The chief justice wrote that those other authorities “contain various combinations of procedural prerequisites, required agency determinations, and limits on the duration, amount, and scope of the tariffs they authorize.” Roberts concluded that the court doesn’t “speculate on hypothetical cases not before us.”

So, contrary to the president’s social media complaint, the court didn’t preapprove his tariffing backup plan, which is the subject of new litigation.

The high court could eventually be called on to settle that new litigation, as it did the IEEPA case. But the majority didn’t predetermine the outcome of future litigation in that case.
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